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CardSharing Server ENG => Questions on cardsharing server => Sky Deutschland HD 19E => Topic started by: telex on 21 October 2019, 17:47:15

Title: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: telex on 21 October 2019, 17:47:15
from a german board:

"Im logfile ist eindeutig zu erkennen, dass die Programme auf den UQ overcrypt Key umgestellt wurden.
D.h. sie sind identisch Sky 1 HD und DAZN verschlüsselt und nur mit einem Key zu entschlüsseln, der für jede Karte individuell ist."

Betroffen sind derzeit alle Sender auf den Transponder 11914.50
Sky Cinema Germany +1
Sky Cinema +24 Germany
NatGeo Wild HD Germany
Sky Sport HD Germany
Discovery HD Deutschland
Sky Cinema HD Germany
Sky Bundesliga HD 2
Sky Sport HD 3 Germany
Eurosport360 HD 1
Sky Sport 9 HD
Sky Sport Austria 2 HD
Eurosport360 HD 7
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: Jogi on 21 October 2019, 20:22:59
unfortunately I can confirm, the channels are not decoded "without any reason" (other channels work fine)
so server-admin might need to take some money in his hand (German expression) and get a capable Oscam server version on your own :)

I mean, as we all can see: it is possible to decode the "next layer of encryption" (don't know if it is named overcrypt key): DAZN 1+2 (which have also stoped working for some weeks) are best channels to show it: "usual SkyDE channels" (not using "overcrypt") are decoded within ~150ms each codeword. Switching to DAZN (1 or 2) and the times double to around 300-350ms (that's where it starts to get freeze at least above 450ms response time for every "7 seconds valid codeword"). Simple reason: this channel is bought from an external source. And of course it doubles the time to decode as the codeword is send from my receiver to cs-server > from cs-server to external cs-server > and the same way back :)

And I am thinking about new channel request for Sky One (or Sky 1 DE) as it should also be possible to get Sky One the same way as the DAZN channels (which many freezers, as already explained).

My subscription (and most of my friends) ends at the beginning of next year. Lets see how admin reacts or I switch to another cs-server. Because it is possible to decode, it only requires a "non public Oscam version" at the server - and as we can see with DAZN: ONLY the server requires this expensive Oscam version, the clients are fine with the cost free Oscam (or other emulator).
So if you are looking for another server: get one who offers DAZN channels and Sky One (and the channels listed in the posting above) and check the response times: if time for "overcrypt channels" is much higher look for another server.
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: suma on 22 October 2019, 03:33:58
Channels from one transponder are not decoded. It's global problem. Sky is doing something. We have no information yet what happened, but we hope, information will be available soon
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: vkoschel on 23 October 2019, 00:13:46
many write that they opened again, maybe there is an opportunity to repair
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: suma on 23 October 2019, 06:44:19
https://www.cardsharing.cc/index.php?topic=35582.0
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: romaN237 on 24 October 2019, 14:43:58
Everything should be dark in November. Can you offer iptv in the future for SkyDE?
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: romaN237 on 24 October 2019, 15:24:57
I found a provider where everything is running but laggy (ECM Times ~500-4000ms). only discovery hd is not running. maybe there will be a solution soon?
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: andiii123 on 24 October 2019, 21:12:16
have a provider where everything works. just think that they can not solve it here!
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: romaN237 on 24 October 2019, 21:51:48
the other provider uses V13 cards... Everything is running there. just how long?
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: gregordastier on 24 October 2019, 22:05:35
It's amazing how fast some people start panicking after one week without few channels.
This is a general issue and not only a CSS one.
Just be patient and I am sure the CSS team is going to find a solution...as usually.
BR
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: suma on 25 October 2019, 06:28:37
People, please don't forget that SkyDe card is not a pack of cigarettes sold at every corner...
At least, there is Moderator e-mail available on the forum and you may contact him any time with your proposals and offers (Re: IPTV, V13 cards, etc., etc.)
If you don't like something, it's your right to leave... Nobody will blame or hold you. You always have a choice.
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: malibuq on 28 October 2019, 18:17:57
TP 12382 seems to be the next are switched
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: xe7ro on 29 October 2019, 18:32:46
Hey @suma any Updates? The admin hat found a Solution?
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: placma on 29 October 2019, 19:05:46
andiii123 and romaN237: could you guys message me a provider that offers working channels mentioned above? Thanks a lot! :-)
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: gregordastier on 29 October 2019, 20:52:31
Hi Moderator, Hi All,

Please find below a link to the today published article about the new SKY encryption (unfortunately only in german):

https://www.techbook.de/entertainment/streaming/sky-unique-pairing-verschluesselung-receiver

To those who do not speak german I would like to summerize the current status:

According to techbook.de, SKY informs that by the end of November 2019 all channels will be secured by the unique pairing which means that only a SKY Q-Receiver in combination with a SKY card is able to decrypt SKY channels. Usage of 3rd parties receiver will be no more supported from now on.

Do you think it will be possible in future to outwit this encryption?
BR
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: Joerschen on 29 October 2019, 23:46:48
But Sky Sport HD is working (again) at the moment?!
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: suma on 30 October 2019, 03:28:05
Quote from: Joerschen on 29 October 2019, 23:46:48
But Sky Sport HD is working (again) at the moment?!

Yes, we are doing our job... It's a matter of time, as I told before
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: kalamari on 30 October 2019, 13:31:21
Quote from: Joerschen on 29 October 2019, 23:46:48
But Sky Sport HD is working (again) at the moment?!

But only with higher decoding time (350-400ms) - like as by DAZN... Therefore it comes frequently to freezers...
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: suma on 30 October 2019, 15:44:56
The channels are launched in the test mode, have patience
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: kalamari on 30 October 2019, 17:24:42
Okay, thank's for info and your (and your teams) efforts.

Apparently there is still hope for a good solution...   8)
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: romaN237 on 31 October 2019, 22:12:37
Is the backup server currently not available?
I have a freeze every 10 minutes. In the oscam logs i see that the backup server does not connect.

I think that will be fixed? ;)
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: Jogi on 01 November 2019, 10:35:23
ECM times have rapidly increased (usually around 150ms what was very fast and still the same for none-overcrypt channels like Jukebox) up to 450-600ms on some channels, but as I can see right now it is already getting better, I have around 300-450ms on Discovery (using overcrypt) right now. Looks very promising:)

Because I use dual login there is no backup server available to use. But I believe that an additional server would not really help as it ends up on the same cards and if there is a card or now perhaps a cacheex problem it will be the same on main and backup server. Especially with the long runtimes now a backup server would not help very much anymore (with a runtime about 150ms you could send a codeword to even a 3rd server to get it back in time, means within 600ms. With a runtime of 300-450ms it would already freeze sending a request to a 2nd server)

But over all it looks very promising, a really great effort - nice job, many thanks :D

BTW: can we dream about getting German Sky One channel in addition ? Sky One was not available because the channel uses overcrypt since it was launched. As your server is getting "overcrypt-ready" there should be no reason to treat Sky One differently anymore :)
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: suma on 01 November 2019, 11:35:58
Quote from: Jogi on 01 November 2019, 10:35:23
can we dream about getting German Sky One channel in addition ?

I was told, that channels (overcrypted) are added one by one (ASAP). If Sky One is one of the channels that stopped working some time ago, probably, it will be added. If not - I am not sure, maybe it has some special encryption. I will ask Moderator.
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: suma on 01 November 2019, 11:37:03
Quote from: romaN237 on 31 October 2019, 22:12:37
Is the backup server currently not available?
I have a freeze every 10 minutes. In the oscam logs i see that the backup server does not connect.

I think that will be fixed? ;)

User romaN237 has no valid subscriptions.
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: telex on 01 November 2019, 11:40:58
Here some channels are not working, for example. Sky Cinema +24 HD
Spiegel TV Wissen
E Entertainment and a few more...
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: suma on 01 November 2019, 12:06:04
Quote from: telex on 01 November 2019, 11:40:58
Here some channels are not working, for example. Sky Cinema +24 HD
Spiegel TV Wissen
E Entertainment and a few more...

AND...?
Have you read the topic from the very beginning or you are just making a statement?
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: Jogi on 01 November 2019, 12:11:43
thanks suma,
Channel id Sky One HD = 0093:098C@000000 (and Sky One +1 = 0090:098C@000000 but the main channel without "+1" would be enough *g*)

Sky Cinema HD, Sky Cinema +24 HD and Sky Cinema +1 are working fine for me
2019/11/01 09:59:00 5E815372 c (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B62/0087/9F:5CEA1D000EFC1B3BAE07AB0149F2A01F): found (281 ms) by Sky-DE - Sky Cinema +24 HD
but I can confirm, that "Spiegel Wissen" is not decoded

2019/11/01 09:59:15 5E815372 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 stopped descrambling for program 0087 (Sky Cinema +24 HD)
2019/11/01 09:59:15 5E815372 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 0 CAID: 09C4 ECM_PID: 1B55 PROVID: 000000
2019/11/01 09:59:15 5E815372 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 1 CAID: 098C ECM_PID: 1A55 PROVID: 000000
2019/11/01 09:59:15 5E815372 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 2 CAID: 098D ECM_PID: 1C55 PROVID: 000000
2019/11/01 09:59:15 5E815372 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 found 3 ECM pids and 2 STREAM pids in CA PMT
2019/11/01 09:59:15 5E815372 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A55 ANY CHID PMTPID 0066 VPID 06FF
2019/11/01 09:59:15 5E815372 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0BC2/0031/9F:26F56E0E563BCF37F56B4F78006FF102): not found (64 ms) by Sky-DE - Spiegel TV Wissen
2019/11/01 09:59:16 5E815372 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 0 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2019/11/01 09:59:16 5E815372 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A55 ANY CHID PMTPID 0066 VPID 06FF
2019/11/01 09:59:16 5E815372 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0BC2/0031/9F:26F56E0E563BCF37F56B4F78006FF102): not found (1 ms) by Sky-DE - Spiegel TV Wissen
2019/11/01 09:59:17 5E815372 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 0 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2019/11/01 09:59:17 5E815372 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A55 ANY CHID PMTPID 0066 VPID 06FF
2019/11/01 09:59:17 5E815372 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0BC2/0031/9F:26F56E0E563BCF37F56B4F78006FF102): not found (1 ms) by Sky-DE - Spiegel TV Wissen
2019/11/01 09:59:18 5E815372 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 1 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!

currently Sky Cinema +1 HD is freezing very often

2019/11/01 10:05:54 5E815372 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 0 CAID: 09C4 ECM_PID: 1B2A PROVID: 000000
2019/11/01 10:05:54 5E815372 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 1 CAID: 098C ECM_PID: 1A2A PROVID: 000000
2019/11/01 10:05:54 5E815372 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 2 CAID: 098D ECM_PID: 1C2A PROVID: 000000
2019/11/01 10:05:54 5E815372 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 found 3 ECM pids and 3 STREAM pids in CA PMT
2019/11/01 10:05:54 5E815372 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A2A ANY CHID PMTPID 0076 VPID 16FF
2019/11/01 10:05:54 5E815372 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B67/0086/9F:57188508D377F25B133BC5B5075CA8A7): found (51 ms) by Sky-DE - Sky Cinema +1 HD
2019/11/01 10:05:56 5E815372 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B67/0086/9F:3CE19F779C2CFD5A53013A79379F2F3F): found (1002 ms) by Sky-DE - Sky Cinema +1 HD
2019/11/01 10:06:03 5E815372 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B67/0086/9F:9AB2F1039A675E26B60B3308EBFCD637): found (1014 ms) by Sky-DE - Sky Cinema +1 HD
2019/11/01 10:06:10 5E815372 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B67/0086/9F:B497F6FFFDA5B8D602297019AC99FA06): found (1028 ms) by Sky-DE - Sky Cinema +1 HD
2019/11/01 10:06:16 5E815372 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B67/0086/9F:F33E205C016EA393A243072B40F60DEE): found (545 ms) by Sky-DE - Sky Cinema +1 HD
2019/11/01 10:06:24 5E815372 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B67/0086/9F:20E6D53900F0AD022BA6D0583685866F): found (1238 ms) by Sky-DE - Sky Cinema +1 HD
2019/11/01 10:06:30 5E815372 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B67/0086/9F:B493D99F4E2C7C36E2E12BB756389861): found (552 ms) by Sky-DE - Sky Cinema +1 HD
2019/11/01 10:06:37 5E815372 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B67/0086/9F:F103C5190EF7F65ED4593EE1A96F3E52): found (534 ms) by Sky-DE - Sky Cinema +1 HD
2019/11/01 10:06:45 5E815372 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B67/0086/9F:3E792E8C5B2BCAC93166B77F8559EA06): found (1216 ms) by Sky-DE - Sky Cinema +1 HD

but don't take it as a complain, I am patient and wait until you get it optimized :D
for performance reasons I would suggest to remove all the SD versions of channels like Sky Cinema etc. and focus on HD services. Or do you really have customers still using receivers that are not HD-capable ?
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: telex on 01 November 2019, 14:46:49
I started the topic...


Quote from: suma
link=topic=35580.msg129780#msg129780 date=1572599164

Quote from: telex on 01 November 2019, 11:40:58
Here some channels are not working, for example. Sky Cinema +24 HD
Spiegel TV Wissen
E Entertainment and a few more...

AND...?
Have you read the topic from the very beginning or you are just making a statement?
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: marcoxx on 01 November 2019, 20:20:19
We should be realistic! There r not big possibilities to get SKY1HD. This was the first unique pairing channel from SKY! And perhaps till end of November 19 all sky channels getting the unique pairing feature and than the end comes quick! I think it comes in waves to test it and lost not so much clients who use own hardware. So sky make the step by step thing. But i think the end of sky CS is near... the last one after IT und UK switch to unique pairing - there u have only IPTV solutions!  8) 8)
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: goral on 04 November 2019, 19:36:06
But I still got SkySports and Sky Bundesliga...
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: romaN237 on 04 November 2019, 20:29:38
Quote from: goral on 04 November 2019, 19:36:06
But I still got SkySports and Sky Bundesliga...

because the guys do a great job here.
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: kalamari on 04 November 2019, 21:36:36
I confirm  :D ;) :)
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: acid_1 on 05 November 2019, 00:54:51
hello! nice job! nearly all channels work again ... will crime&investigations also work again? best regards
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: telex on 05 November 2019, 10:13:00
What is not working:
Spiegel TV Wissen
Cinema +24 HD
Cinema Hits
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: romaN237 on 05 November 2019, 15:42:11
Quote from: telex on 05 November 2019, 10:13:00
What is not working:
Spiegel TV Wissen
Cinema +24 HD
Cinema Hits

stability is just more important than these 3 channels.
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: telex on 05 November 2019, 16:59:01
I just wanted to know if they do not work for you either ?



Quote from: romaN237 on 05 November 2019, 15:42:11
Quote from: telex on 05 November 2019, 10:13:00
What is not working:
Spiegel TV Wissen
Cinema +24 HD
Cinema Hits

stability is just more important than these 3 channels.
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: romaN237 on 05 November 2019, 17:42:58
Only ,,Spiegel TV Wissen" doesn't run.
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: marcoxx on 05 November 2019, 18:44:02
till "unique pairing" was activated by sky - all works, sure! :-) When we have luck and in december all is working - we can be happy.
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: wuffzack on 05 November 2019, 18:54:03
Quote from: marcoxx on 05 November 2019, 18:44:02
till "unique pairing" was activated by sky - all works, sure! :-)
It IS activated on the mentioned channels (Sport 1 & 2 HD, Sky Cinema HD, ...) and people here report that these channels ARE working.

Is this statement "We recommend NOT TO BUY SkyDe subscription for a long period." still valid?
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: suma on 06 November 2019, 03:10:56
Quote from: wuffzack on 05 November 2019, 18:54:03
Is this statement "We recommend NOT TO BUY SkyDe subscription for a long period." still valid?

Yes, why shall we and you risk?
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: marcoxx on 07 November 2019, 18:21:11
Quote from: wuffzack on 05 November 2019, 18:54:03
Quote from: marcoxx on 05 November 2019, 18:44:02
till "unique pairing" was activated by sky - all works, sure! :-)
It IS activated on the mentioned channels (Sport 1 & 2 HD, Sky Cinema HD, ...) and people here report that these channels ARE working.

Is this statement "We recommend NOT TO BUY SkyDe subscription for a long period." still valid?

At this time all sky channels working very well, but sky plan is to activate the unique paring protection. When this thing is starting i think there is not an easy soltuion to use CS. This can be the reason u get the warning on this board u should not buy now a sky de CS. I think next month we know more.....
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: romaN237 on 08 November 2019, 16:18:17
many channels do not work anymore. Can anybody confirm this? Discovery HD, Fox HD, etc ...
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: goral on 10 November 2019, 01:53:54
Quote from: marcoxx on 07 November 2019, 18:21:11
Quote from: wuffzack on 05 November 2019, 18:54:03
Quote from: marcoxx on 05 November 2019, 18:44:02
till "unique pairing" was activated by sky - all works, sure! :-)
It IS activated on the mentioned channels (Sport 1 & 2 HD, Sky Cinema HD, ...) and people here report that these channels ARE working.

Is this statement "We recommend NOT TO BUY SkyDe subscription for a long period." still valid?

At this time all sky channels working very well, but sky plan is to activate the unique paring protection. When this thing is starting i think there is not an easy soltuion to use CS. This can be the reason u get the warning on this board u should not buy now a sky de CS. I think next month we know more.....

Absolut agree with you.
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: goral on 10 November 2019, 22:19:00
So, my SKY Sports DE, DAZN are dark now.
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: romaN237 on 12 November 2019, 15:35:32
Quote from: goral on 10 November 2019, 22:19:00
So, my SKY Sports DE, DAZN are dark now.

the channels running
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: DocPepper on 14 November 2019, 23:07:26
Hi there,

just to clarify some things for me...
At this moment all my SkyDE Channels are running (except UHD  ;) ) Is this coincidence or a genius mind on the board?

Even SkyHD1 is working!

How likely is it, to stay working in December and the following months?
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: romaN237 on 15 November 2019, 01:30:53
Today running the most channels without freezes!  :P
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: suma on 15 November 2019, 07:19:04
Quote from: DocPepper on 14 November 2019, 23:07:26
How likely is it, to stay working in December and the following months?

Nobody knows what Sky invents tomorrow. That is why we ask our users not to arrange long-term subscriptions.
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: DocPepper on 15 November 2019, 14:26:48
Quote from: suma on 15 November 2019, 07:19:04
Nobody knows what Sky invents tomorrow. That is why we ask our users not to arrange long-term subscriptions.

Sure! But I realize at this moment, that the information was lost in translation for me. *lol*

No long-term subscriptions NOT long time NO subscription.

I misunderstood your text on the initial page!

Great work!

Fingers crossed, that this will work for a while!
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: suma on 15 November 2019, 18:09:27
Dear subscribers, please be informed that from October 21, 2019 SkyDe provider has started launching new encryption of the channels (OVERCRYPT). At the moment, few channels are encrypted and cannot be shared. We are working hard to fix the problem... We recommend NOT TO BUY SkyDe subscription for a long period.


This is the text on the NEWS page of the billing.
I have just interpreted it with other words, but the meaning is the same - PLEASE DO NOT BUY SKY SUBSCRIPTION FOR A LONGER PERIOD (here, under "longer period" we mean 6 months or 1 year). Nobody knows what will happen tomorrow. We want to warn you that there is a certain risk to arrange a long-term subscription, because in case of REFUND, you will receive your money only to your balance, not to the credit (debit) cards... Please, don't forget this.
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: Jogi on 16 November 2019, 15:45:33
because other seems to have no problems anymore, I must post my ongoing problems.
There are channels like Sky Sport 2 HD (overcrypt) where I never experience freezers and also of course channels with "old encryption" like Sky Sport Bundesliga 1 HD (and response times around 150-160ms), but there are channels that freeze very often. It seems to be related to the load of the server, this morning around 8:00-9:00 o'clock even TNT Comedy HD and Fox HD work, now it's "back to normal" since overcrypt, means freezing all the time. The last 2 weeks, when I watch TV after 18-19:00 o'clock I experience this = not watchable. I also tried Sky Comedy  and Sky Cinema HD and Sky Cinema +24 HD - currently correct decoded but I am sure this will stop when it gets later = more users online. And Spiegel TV Wissen is not running the whole time.

As it seems to be a problem of server-load, may I suggest again: STOP DECODING SD CHANNELS WHEN HD VERSION OF THE CHANNEL IS AVAILABLE ! are there really customers using none-HD-compatible receivers ? and even if there are: most Sky DE channes have switch to HD-only transmission, so this customers need to update anyway

Because I am using dual login I have no backup server. Do you think it might help to get switched to another server ? most likely it would require to mail moderator ??

Below the log from my experiences as described. My CS account username is JayOswalt
Below also a ping test to my server, I think response times are fine
May I also add: watching channels that does not get decoded increase the number of rejected requests in my statistic (currently 85), however, I do not get a "rule violation flag" so that does not really matter.


2019/11/16 12:55:50 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 1 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2019/11/16 12:55:50 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A77 ANY CHID PMTPID 006E VPID 0EFF
2019/11/16 12:55:50 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:DAFBCCE1EAC3B741D0BF17CD10EEBAE8): not found (0 ms) by Sky-DE - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 12:55:51 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 0 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2019/11/16 12:55:51 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A77 ANY CHID PMTPID 006E VPID 0EFF
2019/11/16 12:55:51 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:DAFBCCE1EAC3B741D0BF17CD10EEBAE8): not found (0 ms) by Sky-DE - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 12:55:52 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 0 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2019/11/16 12:55:52 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A77 ANY CHID PMTPID 006E VPID 0EFF
2019/11/16 12:55:52 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:DAFBCCE1EAC3B741D0BF17CD10EEBAE8): not found (1 ms) by Sky-DE - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 12:55:53 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 1 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2019/11/16 12:55:53 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A77 ANY CHID PMTPID 006E VPID 0EFF
2019/11/16 12:55:53 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:9BF445102EAB772178B3EE66170F350D): found (51 ms) by Sky-DE - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 12:56:00 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:9C18A51CC6654B02AC48A888B90B9475): found (489 ms) by Sky-DE - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 12:56:07 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:B02E9A700F3332605083C44C15FB91CA): found (531 ms) by Sky-DE - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 12:56:14 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:1FB1C601130FDB53148A8E6FEE7B9DEA): found (476 ms) by Sky-DE - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 12:56:21 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:97F0F9042AC9C2761F7DEA0EC3B1B689): found (619 ms) by Sky-DE - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 12:56:28 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:CC74605DE9654E5F4109B7A1D06CE33A): found (545 ms) by Sky-DE - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 12:56:35 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:94CDCC860E21791500FEC8A9430E5364): found (528 ms) by Sky-DE - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 12:56:42 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:64BD721A9E58497933A70C3A1BCD51BA): found (551 ms) by Sky-DE - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 12:56:50 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:949E5B4F86C8BF6CBA6E12DECCDA5CE2): not found (2078 ms) by Sky-DE - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 12:56:51 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 0 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2019/11/16 12:56:51 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A77 ANY CHID PMTPID 006E VPID 0EFF
2019/11/16 12:56:55 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 0 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2019/11/16 12:56:55 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A77 ANY CHID PMTPID 006E VPID 0EFF
2019/11/16 12:56:55 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:949E5B4F86C8BF6CBA6E12DECCDA5CE2): not found (1 ms) by Sky-DE - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 12:56:56 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 0 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2019/11/16 12:56:56 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A77 ANY CHID PMTPID 006E VPID 0EFF
2019/11/16 12:56:56 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:8D8387769EFCFBCF27159C0995621A42): found (40 ms) by Sky-DE - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 12:57:03 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:C39B84EC3A0933438AE814095DF4C3DD): found (539 ms) by Sky-DE - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 12:57:10 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:E98CA5C5D7EA6A4874D54306048D8028): found (531 ms) by Sky-DE - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 12:57:17 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:C9A5EEC3FFD85C6ACADD4EE69C0772F8): found (553 ms) by Sky-DE - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 12:57:24 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:9886E78757B49A195D5751BF7FE4D608): found (537 ms) by Sky-DE - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 12:57:31 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:7FD54EF2F9CF66F1B39DF89D9C252B68): found (548 ms) by Sky-DE - TNT Comedy HD


2019/11/16 12:59:41 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 stopped descrambling for program 0088 (TNT Comedy HD)
2019/11/16 12:59:42 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 0 CAID: 09C4 ECM_PID: 1B19 PROVID: 000000
2019/11/16 12:59:42 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 1 CAID: 098C ECM_PID: 1A19 PROVID: 000000
2019/11/16 12:59:42 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 2 CAID: 098D ECM_PID: 1C19 PROVID: 000000
2019/11/16 12:59:42 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 found 3 ECM pids and 3 STREAM pids in CA PMT
2019/11/16 12:59:42 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A19 ANY CHID PMTPID 0069 VPID 09FF
2019/11/16 12:59:42 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0C28/007C/9F:AC98F0A8E000DBC31099C1917CE94317): found (46 ms) by Sky-DE - Fox HD
2019/11/16 12:59:45 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0C28/007C/9F:E3F334A6138270588F4B332F398C58E4): found (328 ms) by Sky-DE - Fox HD
2019/11/16 13:00:34 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0C28/007C/9F:83B48B4F8B245C0FED0B9F368D66B260): found (326 ms) by Sky-DE - Fox HD
2019/11/16 13:00:41 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0C28/007C/9F:0DC1BE30AE26A1C58DB84E8908F6E674): found (333 ms) by Sky-DE - Fox HD
2019/11/16 13:00:49 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0C28/007C/9F:92887A4B765F5BE7EB7BBE2365BC9AFE): found (495 ms) by Sky-DE - Fox HD
2019/11/16 13:00:55 4C1DF1EC c   (client) encrypted monitor-client 192.168.178.38 granted (moni, au=off)
2019/11/16 13:00:55 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0C28/007C/9F:A4DDC2711090CB44CED5B74BFD16ACEE): found (318 ms) by Sky-DE - Fox HD
2019/11/16 13:00:58 4C1DF1EC m   (client) moni disconnected from 192.168.178.38
2019/11/16 13:01:02 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0C28/007C/9F:845EEA3E36272CC08EB5BD26D2A463F2): found (329 ms) by Sky-DE - Fox HD
2019/11/16 13:01:09 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0C28/007C/9F:4EEEAAC63C869DC293A720878AFAC166): found (322 ms) by Sky-DE - Fox HD
2019/11/16 13:01:16 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0C28/007C/9F:F4305A93D1DEB7254AFB8A7371BD3BD2): found (331 ms) by Sky-DE - Fox HD
2019/11/16 13:01:25 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0C28/007C/9F:C25A02EB168D197251F6C49E5BBEBA11): not found (2069 ms) by Sky-DE - Fox HD
2019/11/16 13:01:26 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 0 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2019/11/16 13:01:26 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A19 ANY CHID PMTPID 0069 VPID 09FF
2019/11/16 13:01:26 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0C28/007C/9F:C25A02EB168D197251F6C49E5BBEBA11): not found (0 ms) by Sky-DE - Fox HD
2019/11/16 13:01:27 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 0 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2019/11/16 13:01:37 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0C28/007C/9F:F26F55D19537582CA7E5F0E872FDBBE9): found (329 ms) by Sky-DE - Fox HD
2019/11/16 13:01:44 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0C28/007C/9F:BCF15A0D4397DECF740D8FFC614CD00F): found (323 ms) by Sky-DE - Fox HD


2019/11/16 13:02:53 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 stopped descrambling for program 007C (Fox HD)
2019/11/16 13:02:54 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 0 CAID: 09C4 ECM_PID: 1B55 PROVID: 000000
2019/11/16 13:02:54 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 1 CAID: 098C ECM_PID: 1A55 PROVID: 000000
2019/11/16 13:02:54 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 2 CAID: 098D ECM_PID: 1C55 PROVID: 000000
2019/11/16 13:02:54 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 found 3 ECM pids and 2 STREAM pids in CA PMT
2019/11/16 13:02:54 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A55 ANY CHID PMTPID 0066 VPID 06FF
2019/11/16 13:02:54 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0BC2/0031/9F:C50CA9E46F51AFD4725CC9481B267573): not found (67 ms) by Sky-DE - Spiegel TV Wissen
2019/11/16 13:02:54 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 0 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2019/11/16 13:02:54 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A55 ANY CHID PMTPID 0066 VPID 06FF
2019/11/16 13:02:55 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0BC2/0031/9F:C50CA9E46F51AFD4725CC9481B267573): not found (1 ms) by Sky-DE - Spiegel TV Wissen
2019/11/16 13:02:55 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 1 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2019/11/16 13:02:55 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A55 ANY CHID PMTPID 0066 VPID 06FF
2019/11/16 13:02:56 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0BC2/0031/9F:C50CA9E46F51AFD4725CC9481B267573): not found (0 ms) by Sky-DE - Spiegel TV Wissen
2019/11/16 13:02:56 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 0 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2019/11/16 13:02:58 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 0 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2019/11/16 13:02:58 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A55 ANY CHID PMTPID 0066 VPID 06FF
2019/11/16 13:02:59 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 stopped descrambling for program 0031 (Spiegel TV Wissen)
2019/11/16 13:03:00 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 found 0 ECM pids and 8 STREAM pids in CA PMT


2019/11/16 13:06:40 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 0 CAID: 09C4 ECM_PID: 1B0D PROVID: 000000
2019/11/16 13:06:40 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 1 CAID: 098C ECM_PID: 1A0D PROVID: 000000
2019/11/16 13:06:40 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 2 CAID: 098D ECM_PID: 1C0D PROVID: 000000
2019/11/16 13:06:40 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 found 3 ECM pids and 4 STREAM pids in CA PMT
2019/11/16 13:06:40 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A0D ANY CHID PMTPID 0060 VPID 00FF
2019/11/16 13:06:40 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0C1F/0069/9F:F070D88FC2DE894B2EA99186F844DF29): found (42 ms) by Sky-DE - Sky Sport Bundesliga 1 HD
2019/11/16 13:06:43 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0C1F/0069/9F:D202288A1AF18AABF9C9ADE6A588BC51): found (160 ms) by Sky-DE - Sky Sport Bundesliga 1 HD
2019/11/16 13:06:45 317E4860 c   (client) encrypted monitor-client 192.168.178.38 granted (moni, au=off)
2019/11/16 13:06:48 317E4860 m   (client) moni disconnected from 192.168.178.38
2019/11/16 13:06:50 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0C1F/0069/9F:E91C75BE73CABFEFF6B738A174A44CAC): found (162 ms) by Sky-DE - Sky Sport Bundesliga 1 HD
2019/11/16 13:07:18 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0C1F/0069/9F:551C4AD0AC84517E2B7FCCB82088A26E): found (163 ms) by Sky-DE - Sky Sport Bundesliga 1 HD

2019/11/16 13:09:06 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 stopped descrambling for program 0069 (Sky Sport Bundesliga 1 HD)
2019/11/16 13:09:07 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 0 CAID: 098C ECM_PID: 1AD1 PROVID: 000000
2019/11/16 13:09:07 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 1 CAID: 09C4 ECM_PID: 1BD1 PROVID: 000000
2019/11/16 13:09:07 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 2 CAID: 098D ECM_PID: 1CD1 PROVID: 000000
2019/11/16 13:09:07 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 found 3 ECM pids and 4 STREAM pids in CA PMT
2019/11/16 13:09:07 47042FB8 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 0 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1AD1 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2019/11/16 13:09:07 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0BB9/0072/9F:F6F3BADD8A3AF58FF034E5395D15E88C): found (45 ms) by Sky-DE - Sky Sport 2 HD
2019/11/16 13:09:11 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0BB9/0072/9F:ED87C6E909316647E4321E4DC6256519): found (380 ms) by Sky-DE - Sky Sport 2 HD
2019/11/16 13:09:18 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0BB9/0072/9F:3AF1B69098B7CD14EAD9C98CB3DE9EC1): found (354 ms) by Sky-DE - Sky Sport 2 HD
2019/11/16 13:10:07 47042FB8 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0BB9/0072/9F:A339B6F35DB5662CAB4802F9261A7B25): found (363 ms) by Sky-DE - Sky Sport 2 HD

Pinging server8x [x.xx.xxx.1] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from x.xx.xxx.1: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=55
Reply from x.xx.xxx.1: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=55
Reply from x.xx.xxx.1: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=55
Reply from x.xx.xxx.1: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=55
Ping statistics for x.xx.xxx.1:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 28ms, Maximum = 32ms, Average = 29ms

PS: I had to remove some parts of the logfile as it exceeds maximum allowed message lenght
the whole log as attachment
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: romaN237 on 16 November 2019, 16:30:09
my oscam version switches between caid 098C and 09C4. Now I have no freezer anymore.

2019/11/16 14:26:19 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (098C@000000/0B67/0086/9F:D4FD9D2059F73C62DB04E9D23B73C70C): found (364 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:26:26 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (098C@000000/0B67/0086/9F:EDFBB5722A4E429CC4FA745E41433C88): found (356 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:26:33 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (098C@000000/0B67/0086/9F:151A69275DDC572873253A32DF61A871): found (371 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:26:40 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (098C@000000/0B67/0086/9F:81B65327B836BF866123467926C20E97): found (381 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:26:47 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (098C@000000/0B67/0086/9F:913EA0B69B52A3F6C13EAEC27C8CB133): found (354 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:26:54 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (098C@000000/0B67/0086/9F:B32ACA66676393A55AE86C7AC49DA4F9): found (362 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:27:01 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (098C@000000/0B67/0086/9F:7355E3D849F9093533E3F9CA62E82D50): found (364 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:27:08 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (098C@000000/0B67/0086/9F:CE933B765A60D79C659370CE74ADB5AE): found (362 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:27:17 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (098C@000000/0B67/0086/9F:B934C43C66A6E41E0575FD67D67B00DB): rejected  (2115 ms) by BACKUP (F/2/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:27:17 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (098C@000000/0B67/0086/9F:B934C43C66A6E41E0575FD67D67B00DB): rejected  (1 ms) by BACKUP (F/2/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:27:17 7C72C091 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decodingrequests after 1 ms with 2 enabled and 1 disabled ecmpids!
2019/11/16 14:27:17 7C72C091 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 0 CAID 09C4 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1B2A ANY CHID PMTPID 0076 VPID 16FF
2019/11/16 14:27:18 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (09C4@000000/0B67/0086/A7:FB266E3CEB81056C658BA0B6B8E49A87): found (53 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:27:22 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (09C4@000000/0B67/0086/A7:1B8DD5A129E4C875B9F67F1B59E7356A): found (279 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:27:29 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (09C4@000000/0B67/0086/A7:CD7E2BB8FCF6CE2A5BF41102DD703ECA): found (273 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:27:36 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (09C4@000000/0B67/0086/A7:842B6A53BF591433E55A9AE19EBF148C): found (282 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:27:43 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (09C4@000000/0B67/0086/A7:77AEC16CFA60D525A90512E2814FA61C): found (276 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:27:50 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (09C4@000000/0B67/0086/A7:E33842EEEFE7DA23D8FE20E03024246C): found (286 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:27:57 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (09C4@000000/0B67/0086/A7:2588AD4016F61068B1739410EDA93E99): found (290 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:28:04 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (09C4@000000/0B67/0086/A7:6967C09D36B7991D09591F72A1AE553C): found (270 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:28:11 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (09C4@000000/0B67/0086/A7:F7491850CED12F9C093CA5E7BD05291E): found (300 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:28:18 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (09C4@000000/0B67/0086/A7:2970A60D6A060F380B7351E401F1086A): found (280 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:28:25 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (09C4@000000/0B67/0086/A7:2D01AD72F195CDFD7DA47FF35CD831F7): found (266 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:28:32 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (09C4@000000/0B67/0086/A7:AD8F1258186725FEF8D067295FA4A8FF): found (287 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:28:39 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (09C4@000000/0B67/0086/A7:6F270BE22986562348DE1507BE8D5817): found (270 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:28:46 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (09C4@000000/0B67/0086/A7:62C0A9B8064DDD0BDAC5D8980FD9D721): found (283 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:28:53 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (09C4@000000/0B67/0086/A7:69FEFFA4AB80A4389D9457F225D38B2F): found (284 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:29:00 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (09C4@000000/0B67/0086/A7:AE746CF4E72850E683A2463DD1883B38): found (266 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:29:07 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (09C4@000000/0B67/0086/A7:AA7DB9AEE675791710F24F1228D48869): found (280 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:29:14 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (09C4@000000/0B67/0086/A7:2DC784FB8643A4B7011B39E0136A6BD0): found (269 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:29:21 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (09C4@000000/0B67/0086/A7:E04B4EAA2172BC22539896DCD96C1958): found (270 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
2019/11/16 14:29:28 7C72C091 c      (ecm) dvbapi (09C4@000000/0B67/0086/A7:D0026D56DBE9E2A9C5C5C24BB86DD70D): found (267 ms) by MAIN (P/1/2/2)
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: Jogi on 16 November 2019, 17:17:14
Hello romaN237,

thanks for your help, at least it works basically, lets see, if it will be stable.
Is this new reader for caid 09c4 mentioned anywhere ? not after logging in to my account in the billing on the News-page, or on my subscription - nothing
And I also cannot find any hint here on the forum
Where do you got this information ?

I have checked available reader config for caid 09c4 some times before, as many people on the internet wrote 09c4 works better than 098c, but around 2 weeks ago there was no 09c4-reader listed on my subscription page (and I am using Newcamd-protocol, so the caid is not added automatically as it would be using CCcam-protocol)

However, at least it switches and get on decoding right now

2019/11/16 14:56:35 7A17C88A c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 0 CAID: 09C4 ECM_PID: 1B77 PROVID: 000000
2019/11/16 14:56:35 7A17C88A c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 1 CAID: 098C ECM_PID: 1A77 PROVID: 000000
2019/11/16 14:56:35 7A17C88A c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 2 CAID: 098D ECM_PID: 1C77 PROVID: 000000
2019/11/16 14:56:35 7A17C88A c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 found 3 ECM pids and 3 STREAM pids in CA PMT
2019/11/16 14:56:35 7A17C88A c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A77 ANY CHID PMTPID 006E VPID 0EFF
2019/11/16 14:56:35 7A17C88A c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:F349437E86338900FEB1105F69B52F02): found (54 ms) by Sky-DE.14 - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 14:56:41 7A17C88A c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:3A178CE25A60FFAE6F56F21250517973): found (465 ms) by Sky-DE.14 - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 14:56:41 06B0D30E c   (client) encrypted monitor-client 192.168.178.38 granted (moni, au=off)
2019/11/16 14:56:48 7A17C88A c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:C8C766E8D88CF774A358C768F40AED5D): found (532 ms) by Sky-DE.14 - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 14:56:55 7A17C88A c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:BFCC6D700A3CDDC0AD839D7481DD6583): found (526 ms) by Sky-DE.14 - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 14:57:02 7A17C88A c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:78DD37F9C0972883B13F1250EA1B1772): found (457 ms) by Sky-DE.14 - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 14:57:09 7A17C88A c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:2B404DEFECBB0DB95FBBE1EBF670E480): found (517 ms) by Sky-DE.14 - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 14:57:18 7A17C88A c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/0B60/0088/9F:6D9CDB11C9C168885A2C1398D09383B0): not found (2058 ms) by Sky-DE.14 - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 14:57:18 7A17C88A c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 0 CAID 09C4 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1B77 ANY CHID PMTPID 006E VPID 0EFF
2019/11/16 14:57:19 7A17C88A c      (ecm) ax (09C4@000000/0B60/0088/A7:F5B0EEE0927F7311C7FA1BA65BD3D284): found (38 ms) by Sky-DE.13 - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 14:57:23 7A17C88A c      (ecm) ax (09C4@000000/0B60/0088/A7:A733E517A97ED727F22BA41D97F29E6D): found (398 ms) by Sky-DE.13 - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 14:57:30 06B0D30E m   (client) moni disconnected from 192.168.178.38
2019/11/16 14:57:30 7A17C88A c      (ecm) ax (09C4@000000/0B60/0088/A7:2D3729DDA9200F1DC62A8059A61C4934): found (406 ms) by Sky-DE.13 - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 14:57:37 7A17C88A c      (ecm) ax (09C4@000000/0B60/0088/A7:05040CA04968F2DAE7104A5F392C02F8): found (351 ms) by Sky-DE.13 - TNT Comedy HD
2019/11/16 14:57:38 7A17C88A c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 stopped descrambling for program 0088 (TNT Comedy HD)
2019/11/16 14:57:39 7A17C88A c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 found 0 ECM pids and 11 STREAM pids in CA PMT

however, I leave 098C/Sky v14-card with higher priority in my oscam.dvbapi-file. If required it will freeze once before switching to 09c4-reader.
I do not understand, why people have to find out themself :(

But I would still suggest to switch off all SD channels from cs-server for channels that are using overcrypt and also available in HD. There is no advantage in supporting both resolutions as its the same program (OK, you might see it as a backup if HD version is not decoded). Many channels are only available via HD as mentioned, but for the premium channels, where Sky customers have to pay an extra fee for HD, like premium film channels, Sky-Sports and Sky-Bundesliga channels, there is no advantage to support SD anymore (and advantage is only given if SD version of a program is not already on overcrypt). Might be possible, that sometimes the SD version is running without freezers or at least less freezers, but optimizing the server and reducing load might help everyone using HD version of a program.

PS: and it also decodes Spiegel TV Wissen again using 09C4/Sky version 13 card.
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: romaN237 on 16 November 2019, 18:12:29
caid 09c4 has been added for the Sky 1 HD channel.
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: Jogi on 16 November 2019, 18:22:55
that does not answer my question since when you have 09c4 in use and how do you got this update information, but amazing :D
Sky One HD now also available - really great
thx again :)
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: romaN237 on 16 November 2019, 18:33:50
Caid 09c4 i noticed in the logs since yesterday.
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: Jogi on 16 November 2019, 19:02:11
you are using CCcam-protocol ? otherwise I would not understand "how you see this in a logfile". Using Newcamd caids not submitted automatically by the server and yo get not aware of new caids as it require manually configuration of an additional reader (but settings, especially port number is required, are available on the my subscription page).
If this is active since yesterday, it might take some time for testing before this information will be posted in the News and announcements section of the forum, or even on the News-site after login in to my account on the billing page
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: malone7 on 23 November 2019, 22:20:35
Quote from: Jogi on 16 November 2019, 18:22:55
that does not answer my question since when you have 09c4 in use and how do you got this update information, but amazing :D
Sky One HD now also available - really great
thx again :)

Sky One HD should work? Are you sure? I have black screen.
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: romaN237 on 23 November 2019, 23:07:49
Yes, Sky 1 HD works fine.

which protocol do you use?
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: malone7 on 24 November 2019, 01:19:32
OSCam 11.507-r794
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: romaN237 on 24 November 2019, 01:33:01
Yes... but wich Protocol? Cccam? Newcamd?
I think you dont have add the Reader for the caid 09c4.
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: malone7 on 24 November 2019, 11:47:04
Sorry, the protocol is Ccam. How can I add caid 09c4? Is there any FAQ?

Thanks
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: romaN237 on 24 November 2019, 12:32:01
if you use cccam protocol then it should work automatically.
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: malone7 on 24 November 2019, 13:09:31
Oh no! It`s Newcamd, not Ccam!

I found this in oscam.server:

[reader]
label       = "main_cardsharing.cc_XXXXX"
protocol    = newcamd
key         = 0102030405060708091011121314
device      = server_XXX,XXXXX
user        = XXXXX
password    = XXXXX
group       = 1
audisabled  = 1
disablecrccws = 1
inactivitytimeout = 300
ident     = 0D95:000000,000004

Have tried the following: Copy those lines and changed
1.) label = "main_cardsharing.cc_20199" to  label = "main_cardsharing.cc_XXXXX"
2.) ident     = 0D95:000000,000004 to ident = 09c4:000000,000004

Sky 1 HD still doesn`t work.

BTW. "Crime and Investigation" is not working, is there any solution right now?
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: Jogi on 24 November 2019, 13:57:20
beside the servername you should also hide the portnumbers of the cs-server addresses :)
the config you are presenting is for 0D95 card = ORF/Austria-Sat channels, Sky-DE lines =  the usual one with 098c and in addition now the new line for reader 09c4 - the 09c4-reader will open Sky One
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: romaN237 on 24 November 2019, 15:00:55
try this

[reader]
label       = skyde_main
protocol    = newcamd
key         = 0102030405060708091011121314
device      = xxxxx,6014
user        = xxxxx
password    = xxxxx
group       = 1
audisabled  = 1
disablecrccws = 1
disablecrccws_only_for = 098C:000000;09C4:000000
inactivitytimeout = 300
ident       = 098C:000000

[reader]
label       = skyde2_main
protocol    = newcamd
key         = 0102030405060708091011121314
device      = xxxxx,6011
user        = xxxxx
password    = xxxxx
group       = 1
audisabled  = 1
disablecrccws = 1
disablecrccws_only_for = 098C:000000;09C4:000000
inactivitytimeout = 300
ident       = 09C4:000000
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: malone7 on 24 November 2019, 17:38:41
Thanks! Now Sky1 HD and Crime and Investigation works  ;D

@ suma: Can you edit at reply #63 my servername and portnumber. Unfortunately, it`s not possible to
edit previous post by myself? Also it`s not possible to write PM to the mod.
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: suma on 25 November 2019, 11:24:47
Quote from: malone7 on 24 November 2019, 17:38:41
@ suma: Can you edit at reply #63 my servername and portnumber. Unfortunately, it`s not possible to
edit previous post by myself?

deleted

Quote from: malone7 on 24 November 2019, 17:38:41
Also it`s not possible to write PM to the mod.

PM are disabled on the forum. Contact Moderator only by e-mail
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: telex on 26 November 2019, 13:24:45
I dont know what is the right entry for:
device      = xxxxx,xxxx  ?
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: suma on 26 November 2019, 14:04:20
Quote from: telex on 26 November 2019, 13:24:45
I dont know what is the right entry for:
device      = xxxxx,xxxx  ?

https://www.cardsharing.cc/index.php?topic=35019.msg125782#msg125782

device      = server name,port
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: telex on 26 November 2019, 14:06:40
thanks, I got it
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: Bullwei on 30 December 2019, 14:44:38
i have oscam with cccam , should i change protocol in newcamd? if so why does this info not in my login site at "my subscribtions"?
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: suma on 30 December 2019, 16:22:47
It has to be in your statistics, check.
https://www.cardsharing.cc/index.php?topic=35019.0
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: suma on 30 December 2019, 16:26:30
Even with CCcam 2.3.0, you have no rules violation. Not necessary to change CCCam
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: teglafal on 06 June 2020, 18:38:35
Guys, I dont know is it just me or anyone else has the same, but for example with Sky Bundesliga 2 HD I have lots of freezes, despite that oscam says the keys are coming in 1xx or 2xx ms. Is this something with Sky's new encoding system and this will be a static problem (=hard to enjoy wathing it) or just something temporary?
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: Cyb3rst0rm on 06 June 2020, 23:24:37
Hey everyone,

same Problem on my Clients today....get to now if it is temporary ? Or something diffrent with Sky DE Channels at the moment ?

Best regards
Cyb3rst0rm
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: tomcom5789 on 07 June 2020, 10:44:12
i also have the same problens since yesterday
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: pijo on 07 June 2020, 10:49:10
same situation also by me => log looks perfect, but there are freezes. I do not understand what is going on...
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: derking708 on 07 June 2020, 13:23:59
SKY DE hat das MultiCRS-System dieser Karten geändert
Wir warten auf die Veröffentlichung des Oscam-Patches von einem Installationsprogramm auf dem Server, um das Problem von ECM-Fehlern zu beheben, die dazu führen, dass er normalerweise nicht lange einfriert


SKY DE has changed the MultiCRS system of these cards
we are waiting for the oscam patch to be released from an installer on the server to fix the problem of ECM errors that cause it to not normally freeze for long
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: TechGuy on 07 June 2020, 21:38:57
Hello

We are investigation the problem
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: purple7 on 08 June 2020, 01:14:22
It is getting worse. Right now there are every couple of seconds freezer.
Hope you find the problem soon.

Greetings
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: derking708 on 08 June 2020, 18:20:06
Try Oscam 11.579
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: marcoxx on 08 June 2020, 19:47:37
Oscam 11.579 works for me.....thx
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: dreamer8000 on 09 June 2020, 16:58:30
what revision of OSCAM?
OSCAM 1.20 11579-r798-2 does not run well
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: derking708 on 09 June 2020, 17:21:35
Yes the Version works not perfect, we have to wait for new oscam version
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: marcoxx on 09 June 2020, 18:11:22
 OSCam-1.20_svn_cw_64_hardcoded-r11579-798 works perfect for my config
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: dreamer8000 on 09 June 2020, 18:24:36
Wait for the weekend and Bundesliga, then you will see that it is not going. At the moment Sky has turned back ;-)
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: teglafal on 13 June 2020, 21:32:12
Well, with oscam-1.20_svn11581-798-x86_64-pc-cygwin-ssl-libusb-pcsc, not a single freeze for me today afternoon :)
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: dreamer8000 on 14 June 2020, 08:56:09
Yes, new OSCAM, new hope  ;)
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: reddragon1969 on 22 June 2020, 13:54:26
Hi,

someone has the new Oscam for me as ipk for VU + Zero and VU + solo SE

thanks

Greets frank
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: dreamer8000 on 23 June 2020, 10:20:04
install the onestep camfeed on your box and be happy
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: purple7 on 12 July 2020, 17:58:22
Hallo,

Puls 4 HD Austria, kabel eins classics and Sat.1 emotions are down.

Thanks and greetings
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: derking708 on 12 July 2020, 22:22:25
Quote from: purple7 on 12 July 2020, 17:58:22
Hallo,

Puls 4 HD Austria, kabel eins classics and Sat.1 emotions are down.

Thanks and greetings

All only Austriasat now, no Sky, no HD+
Title: Re: sky germany is changing encryption
Post by: dreamer8000 on 16 July 2020, 11:01:59
Quote from: derking708 on 12 July 2020, 22:22:25
Quote from: purple7 on 12 July 2020, 17:58:22
Hallo,

Puls 4 HD Austria, kabel eins classics and Sat.1 emotions are down.

Thanks and greetings

All only Austriasat now, no Sky, no HD+

Laufen alle und da gabs auch keine Probleme, seit Wochen stabil. Liegt wohl an Deiner Box oder veralteter OSCAM.