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CardSharing Server ENG => Billing - Payment system => Тема начата: sputnik82 от 31 Декабря 2012, 01:31:25

Название: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: sputnik82 от 31 Декабря 2012, 01:31:25
 >:( >:(  :( :( Unless you want to register your user with everything about you (including a copy of passport, id card, eg. using paxun).

Its impossible to use a EU VISA outside the CIS countries when using LiqPay, Only MasterCard accepted from Western-Europe customer (Which no one has any more as it's rubbish and you can nearly not use it for anything thoose days).

I wasn't able to find any place where I could by prepaid WMZ for Webmony (They all ended in LiqPay Visa for CIS countries payment gateway...Maby there is a way but I gave up after 2 hours).

It looks like all us from The most of the Western-Europe has to find another place, as it's impossible to deposit ?
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: suma от 31 Декабря 2012, 10:35:41
I wasn't able to find any place where I could by prepaid WMZ for Webmony

What country do you live in?
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: suma от 31 Декабря 2012, 10:41:05
There is a lot of exchange online services. We have already discussed this issue
Use Google to find where you can buy WMZ

http://www.cardsharing.cc/index.php?topic=27374.0
http://exchangerwmz.wordpress.com/
http://entelnova.com/indexwmz.htm
http://www.aerotranslate.com/webmoney/the-easiest-way-to-buy-webmoney.html
http://www.intexchange.ru/en/
1WMZ=1USD
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: Jogi от 31 Декабря 2012, 11:15:48
not cheap with a surcharge of 20% but at least I have already used the service several times (if direct debit directly from webmoney.ru is not possible, or not available for your country): http://exwp.com/req/pw_en.html - and be aware, that it taks 4 or 5 days
at least from Germany much cheaper is paing by direkt debit http://bank.exwp.org/req/ew_en.html - only 7% surcharge, takes 2-3 days after you transferred the money from your bank account
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: sputnik82 от 31 Декабря 2012, 15:47:03
I have looked at the exchange services, but I coulden't figure out howto, and gave up, aleso as all of them wanted passport number eg.
As you wrote mate (jogi) It takes a couple of days.... Not nice when the account runs out at the new year 31.12.2012 in the night :o

But why does It have to by a nightmare like now ?? It worked perfectly....but now it sound like a quite expensive, complicated, uncomfortable, and long lasting process... :(:(:(

P.s. I live in DK
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: Jogi от 31 Декабря 2012, 16:16:59
but you already have a webmoney.ru-account for your WMZs/WMEs ?
for me it looks like there is no problem to transfer money from a Denmark bank account to Webmoney, even WMZs directly is allowed (check the charges, perhaps better to transfer yourself later from WME to WMZ purse), see https://top-up.webmoney.ru/?c=58


if you are able to use direct wire transfer the money is available on instant and can be transferred to your cs-account directly

BTW: what is the problem with your passport id ?
we are talking about serious money transfer, so what is the problem with that ID number ??
and if this server/service gets detected anyway, it will for sure not be your passport id that makes the police ring at your door :-))

Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: sputnik82 от 31 Декабря 2012, 16:19:21
Yes I already have a webmoney.ru-account - Let me take a look an your link :)
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: sputnik82 от 31 Декабря 2012, 16:34:39
IT says that  "Top-up via selected payment system is inaccessable for alias passport type holders". witch means that have to get verified / personal passport, witch also means that I have to send copies of my passport or other id-card......... :(

I think I move to another operator, there are several, and they accept common payment methods(paypal, visa, google checkout), they are a little more expensive, but calculating the time I have spent now without success, I have no problem to pay a couple of $ more /month for peace in my soul :)
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: Kylle от 31 Декабря 2012, 16:51:35
I have send you a message. Maybe that will help you.
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: sputnik82 от 31 Декабря 2012, 19:47:41

No thanx I appreciate anonymity ;)
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: Kylle от 31 Декабря 2012, 20:10:58
Ok. :)
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: rossoneris от 04 Января 2013, 20:42:43
what about western union ? - is that possible ?. It is a shame there is no "easy" way. I am not willing to send picture of creditcard, passport etc to somekind of unknown spraypay or what they are named.
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: rossoneris от 04 Января 2013, 20:58:30
or  what about this https://buywmz.com/ . Can see there is a nice english interface - is there a guide for using this.?

What I don´t want is that I need to send picture of creditcard or passport across the internet to something unknown company/person.
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: suma от 04 Января 2013, 21:30:22
Click on the corresponsing button Cards, Paymer check, and you will see what they need.
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: rossoneris от 04 Января 2013, 22:05:46
I am getting nuts! - Than It is linked to liqpay that does not accept my visa card. It is someway possible of paying without liqspray, webmoney, pryspray or what they are calling because it does not accept western europe visa cards.
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: Jogi от 04 Января 2013, 22:48:18
you could use Webmoney and the option to top up your purse via Paypal by Webmoney to Paypal service, http://exwp.org/ but will take 4-5 days (already described in the thread for successfull payments)
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: rossoneris от 06 Января 2013, 22:36:04
Is there any details of how to use http://exwp.org/.

I have created an account, and now I can go to exchange paypal to webmoney. But than there comes

Your purse WMZ
     
Your account PayPal:  X19 

First Name: (help)
  (в системе Webmoney)
     X19 
Second name:
(Webmoney)
 
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: Jogi от 06 Января 2013, 22:51:17
which value makes problems ?

your purse WMZ = the number starting with the letter z you see when you open your WMZ purse after login on webmoney.ru

your Paypal account = the emailaddress you have registered for Paypal/your Paypal login name

First and 2nd name = first- and surename - as you have spelled it within Webmoney /see option passport from the top menu after logging in to Webmoney
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: rossoneris от 07 Января 2013, 19:59:30
OK - so there are 2 websites.

What should i do first on webmoney than before using the other link
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: Jogi от 07 Января 2013, 21:37:12
on webmoney-page you register an account + create a WMZ purse *g*
and than you send money via exwp from Paypal to your WMZ puse - will take about 4 days if I remember correct
and after your Paypal-money has arrived via ExchangeWebmoney2Paypal-service in your webmoney wmz-puse you can create an invoice for webmoney from yout cardsharing billing account (at least 2-3 $ less than the amount of $ in your wmz-purse because of the charges)
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: rossoneris от 07 Января 2013, 22:28:53
OK so now I have created an account

I can that when I transfer from paypal to webmoney by http://exwp.org/ they takes some charge.

But after they have been transferred, will there agian come new charges when billing ?.
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: rossoneris от 07 Января 2013, 22:39:03


your purse WMZ = the number starting with the letter z you see when you open your WMZ purse after login on webmoney.ru


I can not see anything number starting with z when I am logged in. I Can see wmid and than under "purses" see a number that start with "R".
Название: Re: PAYMENT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FROM SEVRAL EU COUNTRIES
Отправлено: Jogi от 07 Января 2013, 22:58:56
I am not sure if it always look the same, but if you log in to: https://my.wmtransfer.com/login.aspx?l=en-US
you see your registered emailaddress on the top followed by the line PURSE:
here you see all your purses (different currencies - what you need is WMZ, if not already available klick on the plus-sign in the same line to create one)
open the WMZ-puse, you see first line the actual balance and in the 2nd line named NUMBER: the number of your puse starting with the letter Z (you need to enter this letter also into exwp-website)