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CardSharing Server ENG => Questions on cardsharing server => Sky Deutschland HD 19E => Тема начата: Jogi от 27 Июля 2012, 08:31:20
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starting on the 2nd August the channel "Sport1+ HD" will be added to the Sky Deutschland package.
Since yesterday a trailer is available but already encoded - and already decoded by the cs-server
The parameters for the channel are:
Satellit: Astra 19,2° Ost
Transponder: 73 (similar to the Sky Deutschland channels Fox HD, TNT Serie HD, Sky Select HD und Blue Movie HD)
Frequenz 11.876 GHz
Polarisation: Horizontal
Symbolrate: 27500
FEC: 9/10
Modulation: DVB-S2 – QPSK
Service ID: 007A (122), CAIDs: 1833 (Nagra), 098c and 09c4 (Videoguard)
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Excellent news, really good, it works :)
Just a question: Is it possible to view the HD+ channels with the Sky Deutchland suscription? I mean sat1 hd, sport1 hd, etc..? Because it should be in the package, but not works for me...
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http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/skydeutschland.html If HD channels have nagravision 3 encryption, the channels can be opened with SkyDe subscription. Where only Videoguard and Irdeto 2 encryptions are available, they cannot be opened, for ex: 11671H 11641 However, you can watch them if you buy HD+ package.
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Hmm, doesnt work for me, for example Sport1 HD has nagra3, but its not working.. And also Sat1HD and others arent too.. :O
For example:
18:50:54.001: Ch: 96 - SAT 1 HD
18:50:54.001: Programm crc: 3392E396
18:50:54.001: PMT: ACamd_PMT.txt, search, not found PMT=0060 (AND SID=EF74)
18:50:54.384: Auto search..., not found...
18:50:54.384: 0x0060 0xEF74 0x1830 0x00000000 0x1CEA 0x1003 1111110
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Show log from sport 1 hd, pls
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Hmm, doesnt work for me, for example Sport1 HD has nagra3, but its not working.. And also Sat1HD and others arent too.. :O
For example:
18:50:54.384: 0x0060 0xEF74 0x18>>>30<<< 0x00000000 0x1CEA 0x1003 1111110
Sat1HD will not be decoded by a Sky subscription on this server
Sat1HD (and all the other HD+ channel available by SkyDE) are ONLY decoded with a Videoguard card (caid 094C), even NO official SkyDE customer with a Nagra-card (caid 1833) will get the HD+ channels enabled on his SkyDE-card.
And as this sever shares SkyDE via caid1833/Nagra it will not even be possible with an extended subscption to get HD+ channels decoded
but for 1$/month or 9,60$/year you can rent a 2nd line to get HD+ *g*
(official price for a HD+ subscription is 50€/year)
I would not enourage anyone to ordner HD+ on this (or any other CS-server) for a whole year because there might be some changes comming up in the next 4-5 month which will lead to non decodeable HD+channels (simmilar to the additional post processing encryption of HD+ programms on german CableTV), which will also affect anyone with an own HD+ card in an unauthorized receiver, because by now the post processing (only used by some CableTV providers in Germany) is not hacked at all
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Show log from sport 1 hd, pls
07:44:48.339: Ch: 100 - SPORT 1 HD
07:44:48.339: Programm crc: 558EF6B5
07:44:48.339: PMT: ACamd_PMT.txt, search, not found PMT=0064 (AND SID=EF14)
07:44:48.462: Auto search..., not found...
07:44:48.462: 0x0064 0xEF14 0x1830 0x00000000 0x1CAE 0x1003 1111110
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Well, this is interesting, because in the Sky D commercial, they state You can watch also the HD+ channels with Sky D.
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you can believe me - I am from Germany
by default SkyDE send out Videoguard cards with caid 09c4 or since some weeks 098c
if you have an old compatible receiver you can get a Nagra card caid 1833
depending on your receiver/software you might see which caids are used on any channel for example
new program number: EF10 (RTL HD)
CAID: 1830 ECM_PID: 1CCC PROVID: 000000 >> original HD+card, the old white once
CAID: 1843 ECM_PID: 19CC PROVID: 000000 >> original HD+card, the newer black card
CAID: 09C4 ECM_PID: 1BCC PROVID: 000000 >> SkyDE videoguard card, referred to as v13 in
CAID: 098C ECM_PID: 1ACC PROVID: 000000 >> SkyDE videoguard card, also known as v14 cards
CAID: 0648 ECM_PID: 1FCC PROVID: 000000 >> AustriaSat card (don't know, I believe its Irdeto)
CAID: 1860 ECM_PID: 1ECC PROVID: 000000 >> new original HD+card, only read from some people, does not work in Oscam yet, most likly problem with boxkey/rsa key
new program number: EF74 (SAT.1 HD)
CAID: 1830 ECM_PID: 1CEA PROVID: 000000
CAID: 1843 ECM_PID: 19EA PROVID: 000000
CAID: 09C4 ECM_PID: 1BEA PROVID: 000000
CAID: 098C ECM_PID: 1AEA PROVID: 000000
CAID: 1860 ECM_PID: 1EEA PROVID: 000000
Sat1HD has the same CAIDs as RTL HD except 0648 because Sat1HD has an own channel for Austria (different advertisings for Austria, program is the same, perhaps some minor small differences)
at least you will not find any HD+channel serving caid 1833 what is the SkyDE Nagravison caid which is also used on this CS-server for SkyDE channels
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Well, thats sad... But why is Sport 1 + HD working then? :O
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Sport1 HD is included in SkyDe and is opened with SkyDe cards.
http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/hdplus.html
http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/skydeutschland.html
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Sport1 HD is included in SkyDe and is opened with SkyDe cards.
http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/hdplus.html
http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/skydeutschland.html
Not for me.. I've posted the log You asked for, do You have an idea what is wrong?
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Probably, difference in equipment used for sharing. What is the version of Acamd you are using?
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Probably, difference in equipment used for sharing. What is the version of Acamd you are using?
Acamd 0.6.1.0.
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Try Acamd V 0.6.1.8
We recommended using it here http://www.cardsharing.cc/index.php?topic=24539.0
Don't change mapping settings, they are not actual now
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Try Acamd V 0.6.1.8
We recommended using it here http://www.cardsharing.cc/index.php?topic=24539.0
Don't change mapping settings, they are not actual now
Changed to 0.6.1.8, but the same:
11:16:06.990: Ch: 100 - SPORT 1 HD
11:16:06.990: Programm crc: 558EF6B5
11:16:06.990: Create ACamdTmp directory...
11:16:07.190: Incomming PackageSize [184]
11:16:07.316: PMT: ACamd_PMT.txt, search, not found PMT=0064 (AND SID=EF14)
11:16:07.316: 0x0064 0xEF14 0x1830 0x00000000 0x1CAE 0x1003 11111110
Sport 1 + HD is still working.
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===== Nagra ECM on CaID 0x1833,
pid 0x18ba ======prov: 000000
cw0:0 16 1E AF E3 09 10 F6 0F
cw1:0 49 1A 05 68 51 D3 93 B7
[mg0] -> ECM to newcamd serv1:XXXXX
[mg0] <- CW from newcamd serv1:XXXXX (760ms)
[mg0] 760 msec -- Wed Sep 5 17:55:44 2012
As you see, receiver sends requests to the server for CAID 1833 - this is SkyDe CAID (refer to the billing).
From your log-file, I see that Acamd is sending requests for CAID 1830 which is HD+ caid
0x0064 0xEF14 0x1830 0x00000000 0x1CAE 0x1003 11111110
So, the problem is in Acamd.
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Thats right, but what can I do then? With betatunneling, I got the following:
19:12:23.512: Ch: 100 - SPORT 1 HD
19:12:23.512: Programm crc: 558EF6B5
19:12:23.512: PMT: ACamd_PMT.txt, search, not found PMT=0064 (AND SID=EF14)
19:12:23.697: Incomming PackageSize [184]
19:12:23.768: B: 1830:00000000 -> 1833:00000000
19:12:23.768: Auto search...19:12:23.768: P: 1833:00000000
19:12:23.768: P: 1833:00000000
, not found...
19:12:23.768: 0x0064 0xEF14 0x1833 0x00000000 0x1CAE 0x1003 1111110
19:12:23.813: Login attemp (1)
19:12:23.813: netwatch up
19:12:23.819: Netwatcher thread started (tid=180676848)
19:12:23.874: connecting to *****
E41017D41833000000000000000001000000000000000000
0000
19:12:25.234: Newcamd 0: CaID=1833 admin=0 srvUA=0000000000000000 provider 000000/0000000000000000
19:12:25.235: Newcamd: EMM disabled from config
19:12:26.275: Newcamd 0: ECM [1CAE][1833/00000000][T] Pro (1.040)
19:12:26.275: Newcamd 0: ECM [1CAE][1833/00000000][T] not able to decode
19:12:31.305: Newcamd 0: ECM [1CAE][1833/00000000][T] Pro (1.037)
19:12:31.305: Newcamd 0: ECM [1CAE][1833/00000000][T] not able to decode
19:12:37.301: bad msgid 0004 != 0000
19:12:37.301: Newcamd 0: warning an unexpected error occurred
19:12:37.301: Newcamd 0: ECM [1CAE][1833/00000000][T] Pro (0.000)
19:12:37.301: Newcamd 0: ECM [1CAE][1833/00000000][T] not able to decode
I know this is hard to investigate, but how to force acamd to use the 1833 caid instead of 1830?
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Use Google or Acamd support forums
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you should not mix the channels/providers even if the channel name and also the channel logo is very simmilar:
2012/09/05 19:09:32 302A2B88 c dvbapi: new program number: 007A (Sport1+ HD)
2012/09/05 19:09:32 302A2B88 c dvbapi: [ADD PID 0] CAID: 1833 ECM_PID: 181F PROVID: 000000
2012/09/05 19:09:32 302A2B88 c dvbapi: [ADD PID 1] CAID: 09C4 ECM_PID: 1B1F PROVID: 000000
2012/09/05 19:09:32 302A2B88 c dvbapi: [ADD PID 2] CAID: 098C ECM_PID: 1A1F PROVID: 000000
2012/09/05 19:09:33 302A2B88 c dvbapi: Start descrambling PID #0 (CAID: 1833) 1
>>> included in the SkyDE package and works fine via the CS-server - and as you see on the available caids this is only SkyDE, has nothing to do with HD+
and in addition we have the Sport channel without the PLUS sign behind the Sport1 :)
2012/09/05 19:13:41 302A2B88 c dvbapi: new program number: EF14 (Sport1 HD)
2012/09/05 19:13:41 302A2B88 c dvbapi: [ADD PID 0] CAID: 1830 ECM_PID: 1CAE PROVID: 000000
2012/09/05 19:13:41 302A2B88 c dvbapi: [ADD PID 1] CAID: 1843 ECM_PID: 19AE PROVID: 000000
2012/09/05 19:13:41 302A2B88 c dvbapi: [ADD PID 2] CAID: 09C4 ECM_PID: 1BAE PROVID: 000000
2012/09/05 19:13:41 302A2B88 c dvbapi: [ADD PID 3] CAID: 098C ECM_PID: 1AAE PROVID: 000000
2012/09/05 19:13:41 302A2B88 c dvbapi: [ADD PID 4] CAID: 1860 ECM_PID: 1EAE PROVID: 000000
2012/09/05 19:13:41 302A2B88 c dvbapi: Start descrambling PID #0 (CAID: 1830) 1
>>> this channel is official part of the HD+program package and this could be decoded with a SkyDE Videoguard/NDS card as well (caid 09c4+098c)
in my case decoded via my own old white HD+card but also works fine on the CS-server as I know from others
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So, it seems its impossible to watch the hd+ channels with the Sky D subscription here, no matter what Sky D says in commercials. Thanks, then its pointless to try modify acamd settings, etc...
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If you fail with Acamd settings, change your equipment and use normal linux based receiver. DVB-cards are last century and extra hemorrhoid for you...
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as I said: you can watch HD+channels on a SkyDE videogiard/NDS card
I dont know what informations your receiver/pc-software shows but NO caid 1833 = NO SkyDE via Nagra as it is used here on the CS-server
My Log was from Oscam and regardless of your cards or CS-subscriptions and any priority/ignore/replace rule, Oscam in dvbapi-mode shows always all available caids available for decoding
because I have also a SkyUK subscription here on the CS-server, I know that it is also possible to share Videoguard/NDS sharing is also possible via Internet, but the possible response times have to be within 600ms, or you will get freezers, while Nagra sends the code for the next encryption cycle (each cyclew around 7-8 seconds) directly with the current/active encryption, so you have around 7000ms to get the codeword from the receiver - so Nagra is much more reliable even on slower Internet connection/occupied servers. So I would not suggest to change to NDS-system as long as it is possible to use Nagra (should also require less cards for decoding on the server *g*)
and also on the SkyDE NDS-cards the HD+ channels are not for free. You need a appropiate subscription for HD+ with the same charges as on the original HD+card (50€/year)
If you want to watch HD+channels (Sport1 HD etc) via the CS-server extend your subscription and add HD+ (1€/month or 9,60€/year)
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If you fail with Acamd settings, change your equipment and use normal linux based receiver. DVB-cards are last century and extra hemorrhoid for you...
Hemorrhoid?? I do believe, its much better for me using DVB cards and computer, and in this case, the problem is not with me, but with the caids and others, because as Jogi said before, HD+ channels can be watched with Sky D, but not from this server. Thats fairly enough for me. I know, HD+ is available too on the server, but its not that important for me to buy it. I just wanted to know, if is it possible to watch these with my current Sky D suscription, because if yes, then I want to see them, just for the fun factor. But since we know the facts from Jogi, the case is closed, I think.