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CardSharing Server ENG => Billing - Payment system => Тема начата: Ant1942 от 17 Июля 2012, 14:00:33
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Suma, I realise that you don't actually care who leaves or who stays but after 10 months I
feel that I should explain why I will now have to go elsewhere for CS services.
I would have been happy to stay but it has now become totally impossible to pay for your services.
After jumping through all the hoops requested and giving my card details to Webmoney, Interkassa and
OnPayRU, I have been unable to deposit money into the system.
If anyone from the UK actually manages to deposit money please reply to this post.
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I think, you underestimate the payment systems. Have you read all posts (including UK members) re:payment, suppose, here http://www.cardsharing.cc/index.php?topic=29692.msg86782#msg86782 ?
here http://www.cardsharing.cc/index.php?topic=29592.0
Why other members CAN pay, and you CANNOT? I think, you are doing something wrong and not follow step by step instructions re: what is really needed.
Hope, the links will be helpful (finally). I don't believe that all UK cards are rejected.
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OK, lets take them one by one........
OnPayRU
I followed Suma's pictorial but the second page is NOT as shown, it is....
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/Channelman/ON.jpg)
These are not real numbers but it doesn't matter what number I put in for the
mobile phone number.....with or without the '0' or with 44 (for UK). It will NOT
accept it and 'Continue' does not work. The 'mask' shows 11 digits, which is
why I add the leading zero. Without it is on 10 digits and with 44 (country code)
it is 12 digits.
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Managed to get round the OnPayRU 'block' shown above.................just lie.
The mobile number requested is 11 digits starting with a '7' whereas the UK mobile
numbers are 10 digits starting with the '7'.
I added a '0' to the end of my number to make it 11 digits and it was accepted.
Then it was the same as Suma's pictorial.
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Everywhere, you need patience... To sit once and make everything without hurrying, step by step, and finally you will succeed. "ZERO" was your problem, because Russian and English rules of international dialing are different.
As you said, it has now become totally impossible to pay for your services. When you sit and consider everything patiently, it becomes possible... and not so difficult as it seemed for the first time.
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Hurrying......you are joking?
Like many others I have spent hours over many days trying to figure out the various ever changing
payment systems.
Passports, purses, wmz, wmr, wm id, wm cards are NOT straight forward to use and any slight deviation
results in an error report and the problem is that these messages tend to be in Russian, which requires us
to 'cut & paste' into Google translator which puts it's own 'slant' on the error and does not usually make any sense.
I can now say that OnPayRU does work, but.......
The correct method is NOT as shown in your pictorial instructions!
There is an extra step required, and entering the CORRECT information will not work.
Entering a UK mobile number will NOT work......... but any 'made up' 11 digit number starting with a '7' will work.
This apparently is because "Russian and English rules of international dialing are different".........hands
up any European who knew this! :o
I am not criticising you here, I am trying to help UK people through the payment maze.
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I highly appreciate what you are doing and am already giving the link to your post in order other UK (or European) members follow your experience. This is not criticism, this is "THANK YOU". After you complete all your terrible transactions (i understand what does it mean for non-russian people), please make a brief tutorial to be added additionally to the one already made by me...
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i had brain damage over this - systems that worked fine 10-12 weeks ago are now looping in nonsense hell..
It seems credit cards, no matter how real or virtual are now just not working if you like to wear a hat.
FINALLY i got satisfaction - i slipped on a richard nixon rubber mask, bought a uKash voucher, got a formal passport on webmoney, loaded my purse with the ukash voucher, then was able to use webmoney here.
the page to top up your webmoney purse with a ukash voucher is well hidden, it's here: http:// www . wmtransfer . com /eng/addfunds/fast/index.shtml - look down at
the box 'prepaid cards and vouchers' and click on the ukash link..
you WILL need a valid mobile number to take messages on, you WILL need to think carefully about filling in the stuff on the 'formal passport' application at webmoney,
but i'm assuming everyone knows how to complot themselves correctly in this regard, and play safe..
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i have been paying for a sub from here for a year now ,,,, but today i have put my credit card details in 100 times and still gettin an error , but thankfully i found this post and started my phone number with 7 and added a 0 at the end and it worked
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Hi guys, have u been able to pay via onPay? I tried putting 0 at the end of phone number, it takes me thru to the screen where i can enter the card details but the system does not accept my credit card :( .It seems only Russian cards are accepted. Can u advise if there is any workaround?
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I am Italian and I want to pay with visa card. all the options I use does not allow you to pay, how do I? I followed all the instructions, but does not work.
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I am Italian and I want to pay with visa card. all the options I use does not allow you to pay, how do I? I followed all the instructions, but does not work.
Read the topic from the very beginning
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And how do I do? I followed the tutorial but I can not.
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Any payment system has support. Ask them- why you cannot pay. I have no idea why you cannot, and other users (from UK, for example) - can.
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following your guide, for example interkassa say to click the back button ... does not appear to me that key.
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Hi guys, have u been able to pay via onPay? I tried putting 0 at the end of phone number, it takes me thru to the screen where i can enter the card details but the system does not accept my credit card :( .It seems only Russian cards are accepted. Can u advise if there is any workaround?
I paid OnPayRU with a UK Nationwide Visa Credit Card.
Enter card number with no spaces
And don't forget to make sure the phone number you use starts with a '7' and is a total of 11 digits long.
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From Italy do not use Visa...only MasterCard
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Hi guys, have u been able to pay via onPay? I tried putting 0 at the end of phone number, it takes me thru to the screen where i can enter the card details but the system does not accept my credit card :( .It seems only Russian cards are accepted. Can u advise if there is any workaround?
I paid OnPayRU with a UK Nationwide Visa Credit Card.
Enter card number with no spaces
And don't forget to make sure the phone number you use starts with a '7' and is a total of 11 digits long.
well I used to pay via onPay at least two times, but today it doesn't work, it says: Your payment has been rejected due to merchant security settings... I contacted Uniteller support and they send me back to OnPay since they are the ones who are rejecting the paymants. Will see what they replay. It is getting silly because I can't pay via Intercasa as well.... I put my number in but haven't received any sms :(
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I'm trying to pay by onpay but after first screen when click Continue I see the next one with "Fill in all fields to continue Mobile phone: Country: " etc. and I can't skip it.
One month ago everything was OK.
Right now I'm few days out of service so how I can pay? (Interkasa not working too)
I saw all "how-to" but on web sides after first screen all is different.
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Right now I'm few days out of service so how I can pay? (Interkasa not working too)
It is strange what you say. I paid 3 minutes ago via Interkassa. I have VISA card. And it worked quick and without any problem. Only one thing. I paid already earlier with my card via Interkassa and probably my card is already checked (authorized). If you pay for the first time right there then it longs probably about some min or 1 hour extra or something like that
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Just want to add info, if you're not receiving SMS, on the right is icon CHAT, click on it, type your name/problem and they fix it in a second, just played two days with this, registered webmoney, registered passport, nothing happened, still cannot pay with it, interkasa with fixed sms was superfast. It's now my preferred payment.
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Привет!
Я пишу по-польски в течение нескольких дней у меня есть проблема, делая
платежей по обслуживанию вызовов OnRU телефон,
адресные данные, Interkasa ошибку после
Данные с карты MASTER CARD
С уважением,
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Привет!
Я пишу по-польски в течение нескольких дней у меня есть проблема, делая
платежей по обслуживанию вызовов OnRU телефон,
адресные данные, Interkasa ошибку после
Данные с карты MASTER CARD
С уважением,
Читайте всю ветку с самого начала
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i cant pay with onpay, it asks for russian phoner number and interkassa doesnt accept visa debit? are there accurate instructions for webpay?
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i cant pay with onpay, it asks for russian phoner number and interkassa doesnt accept visa debit? are there accurate instructions for webpay?
Read from the very beginning
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Why other members CAN pay, and you CANNOT?
Dear Suma,
I have always appreciated your work as a support person in this forum during my three years here, but this is not the way to approach a paying customer (who is willing to pay even more!), because if you ask this, then they'll be asking you: "Why other servers CAN implement PayPal system, and you CANNOT?"
In fact, after having a nightmare week trying to deposit money in my account using every possible (and dangerous) way, I'm now fed up with all those russian error messages and am unfortunately moving to one of many PayPal using servers that I came across during my Google searches for figuring out how to transfer money with one of your payment systems.
I hope they're as great as you in terms of quality and support. So far so good, but only time will tell.
Thank you once again for your sincere help with every problem I had during my stay, I hope you'll have more accessible payment systems for non-russian people in the future.
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Why other servers CAN implement PayPal system, and you CANNOT?"
http://www.cardsharing.cc/index.php?topic=29478.msg85402#msg85402
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I also try with onpay.ru.
I Enter my credit card details and email adress and phone number - afterwards visa verify pop up as usual and Enter my normal code, that I always use when shopping on the internet
but than the following comes
Your payment has been rejected due to merchant security settings. За дополнительной информацией необходимо обратиться по телефону +7-495-987-19-60 или электронной почте
Have tried to contact support, but they not answering ? - maybe they don´t understand english?
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i am having the same problem....
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So can you tell me what happened afterall...???
Thnx
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Have you read this http://www.cardsharing.cc/index.php?topic=30054.0 ?
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I will try it!
Thnx!
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I was the original starter of this thread and have successfully used the OnPay.ru and the same credit card
many times since July 2012.
NOW, when I try to use it, in an identical way, after the card verification stage I get the same
response as rossoneris
"Your payment has been rejected due to merchant security settings. За дополнительной информацией
необходимо обратиться по телефону +7-495-987-19-60 или электронной почте"
I have changed nothing.......but now I'm back to doing the "Russian Polka" to get money into the system.
I have two weeks to sort this out.......before I have to find another "dance partner".
And yet suma can't understand why we have trouble paying.
I'll try it again in a few days but I'll sit on a different chair and type using a different finger or perhaps choose
a day when Litvinenko is NOT in the news.
I'm quite sure that it all makes a difference. :D
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I have also used onpay.ru since it was introduced and have now tried 4 different cards, but now get the same message:
"Your payment has been rejected due to merchant security settings. За дополнительной информацией
необходимо обратиться по телефону +7-495-987-19-60 или электронной почте"
But, I have now paid successfully with Interkassa by first linking my card in Liqpay and it was processed fine.
Just follow Suma's instructions: http://www.cardsharing.cc/index.php?topic=29703.msg86814#msg86814
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Thanks gusgorman.......the Interkassa (with linked card) worked.
It wasn't quite like suma's tutorial (I think that they have changed the web
interface) but, since I've become fluent in Russian, thanks to CS, I managed
to waltz through the card registration etc. ;D
The good thing was that Liqpay accepted my CaxtonFX card which is a
card I 'load up' with US Dollars for holidays. I feel less vulnerable using
this card as opposed to my bank or credit card.
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Thanks gusgorman.......the Interkassa (with linked card) worked.
It wasn't quite like suma's tutorial (I think that they have changed the web
interface) but, since I've become fluent in Russian, thanks to CS, I managed
to waltz through the card registration etc. ;D
The good thing was that Liqpay accepted my CaxtonFX card which is a
card I 'load up' with US Dollars for holidays. I feel less vulnerable using
this card as opposed to my bank or credit card.
Glad to hear that. Please leave your feedback in the Topic for successfull users... http://www.cardsharing.cc/index.php?topic=30054.0 for other to read and follow
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I have now had two cards replaced by my banks, due to making payments via OnPay.ru and LiqPay
Both banks have told me that the system is automatic and it sees payment to these two servers as fraudulent. They informed me that due to the HIGH number of fake transactions All payments to the RU may be stopped by there automatic systems and the payment card cancelled and a new one issued.
I have been a customer and re seller for many years, but now I can no longer deposit any funds. Up Until Onpay changed there system I had no problems but as they now direct you to LiqPay when you select card payment this alerts the bank.
Is there any other way to make a card payment for people in the UK?
Its not just one bank this is two different banks that have stopped cards and told me the same thing. (RBS,HSBC)
(And my HSBC card was linked via the method on this forum.)
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paul2482, to top-up you account by ukash voucher - it is our new payment method.
In addition, many people from the UK have successfully paid for by credit card using Interkassa - please read this topic - http://www.cardsharing.cc/index.php?topic=29703.0
Have a nice day!
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Hi Thanks for the reply,
Interkassa uses Liqpay and this is the problem Liqpay will soon be total banned by all UK banks. Onpay and Interkassa both use Liqpay.
as I said in my first post I have linked my card but it was still cancelled by the bank because the payment went via Liqpay.
If I cant pay via card then I will have to look at other servers, sorry.
I will try the Ukash and see what happens first.
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As I said earlier in this thread, I use a CaxtonFX Dollar Card.
Caxton supply these cards free on application and they are linked to a bank
account which is used when you top-up via their webpage.
I "load up" my card with US Dollars (usually for US holidays) but it is accepted
by LiqPay and I feel happy that it has a limited amount of money on it in case
anything goes wrong.
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Your lucky :) :) as I take it you live in the USA?
However British banks are stopping most transactions over the internet that go to a RU web money site like Liqpay and Onpay.Ru. so this site is going to soon lose ALL its customers that have British Bank accounts and/or Credit cards, Unless then can come up with a fix soon.
As for Ukash this is a rip off they will only give 1.05USD for every 1.00GBP this makes the payment cost a lot more. They replied to my email saying that I had to email my voucher number back and they would do the rest at a cost!!!!!! that being as I have said 1.05USD for ever 1.00GBP I send.
Come on Get a payment site sorted for your British customers that works.....
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Your lucky :) :) as I take it you live in the USA?
No, I'm in the UK and like I said I use the card for US holidays after 'loading' it up with US Dollars.
http://www.caxtonfx.com/currency-cards/
UKP is converted to USD at Caxton's rate (one of the best), then the only fee is LiqPay.
The 16 USD I paid in December was charged at 16.48 USD by LiqPay.