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CardSharing Server ENG => Questions on cardsharing server => Sky Deutschland HD 19E => Тема начата: bmike от 10 Января 2015, 11:42:08
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Hello!
I see that sky change the encoding to NDS.
There is no Problem with your servers? And i dont need to change settings on my dreambox?
Regards
Dirk
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if Sky exchanges the cards of this cs-server from current Nagra to NDS it will of course require reconfiguration of the server and the clients from caid 1833 (Nagra) to 09c4 (NDS v13-card) or 098c (NDS v14-card, most likely this will be the new CAID on a card exchange from Sky).
Technically it is also possible to use NDS on the server, BSkyB/Sky-UK uses only NDS and works fine from this server. It might be a problem on slow internet connections of the clients because NDS requires the decrypted codeword within 0,6 seconds, otherwise it will start to freeze on longer decoding time (including the delay of your ISP) while the Nagra decoding system only requires the codeword within 6 seconds before you encounter freezes.
But the major problem will be, that Sky has started to pair the new v14-cards to the receiver, what means only the receiver the card is paired to can successful decode the program and also the v13-cards are capable of this security feature but Sky has not started to pair v13-cards to a receiver yet. Currently you can avoid pairing by writing EMMs manually to the NDS-cards after analyzing the EMM and blocking EMMs with pairing-commands. A EMM is valid for about 6 weeks, so you need to write EMMs manually every 5-6 weeks to keep the card running.
Pairing is not a new feature, SkyUK uses pairing for years and it still works fine with emulator and cs-servers but unfortunately Sky Germany uses a new pairing method which is not hacked yet :( so once the card is paired to a receiver (= the receiver you officially got from Sky) at the moment its not possible to use this paired card in other receivers and of course its also not possible to use it for sharing. Even if you have your own legal subscription with your own decoding card from Sky: once the card is paired it would not work in any other receiver than the one you officially got from Sky, no other receiver and emulator is capable to handle the extra layer of encryption.
Sky Germany has officially announced that the old Nagra decoding system will be disabled until the end of 2015 - "the end of 2015" can mean in 2 month or on the 31st December 2015, no one knows. Of course it depends on the time Sky need to replace the existing Nagra cards still in use by many customers - and every official Sky customers using Nagra at the moment needs to get a new card and a new NDS capable satellite receiver.
So lets hope the technically problems with this new pairing-method of Sky NDS cards will be solved before the Nagra cards of this server get replaced :)
Of course not an official statement but most experienced users expect that after disabling Nagra Sky will switch the NDS system to a level that only paired cards are able to decode the program anymore. So if no one is going to hack this new pairing feature used by Sky Germany within the next months and update the cardreader-emulators like Oscam, CCcam or Gbox you should expect the TV screen to go dark at least at the end of this year :(
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And what say the admin´s to this????
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And what say the admin´s to this????
Sky Germany has officially announced that the old Nagra decoding system will be disabled until the end of 2015 - "the end of 2015" can mean in 2 month or on the 31st December 2015, no one knows. Of course it depends on the time Sky need to replace the existing Nagra cards still in use by many customers - and every official Sky customers using Nagra at the moment needs to get a new card and a new NDS capable satellite receiver.
So lets hope the technically problems with this new pairing-method of Sky NDS cards will be solved before the Nagra cards of this server get replaced :)
Let us first live till the end of 2015 to see what happens