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sky germany is changing encryption
« : 21 Октября 2019, 17:47:15 »
from a german board:

"Im logfile ist eindeutig zu erkennen, dass die Programme auf den UQ overcrypt Key umgestellt wurden.
D.h. sie sind identisch Sky 1 HD und DAZN verschlüsselt und nur mit einem Key zu entschlüsseln, der für jede Karte individuell ist."

Betroffen sind derzeit alle Sender auf den Transponder 11914.50
Sky Cinema Germany +1
Sky Cinema +24 Germany
NatGeo Wild HD Germany
Sky Sport HD Germany
Discovery HD Deutschland
Sky Cinema HD Germany
Sky Bundesliga HD 2
Sky Sport HD 3 Germany
Eurosport360 HD 1
Sky Sport 9 HD
Sky Sport Austria 2 HD
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Re: sky germany is changing encryption
« Ответ #1 : 21 Октября 2019, 20:22:59 »
unfortunately I can confirm, the channels are not decoded "without any reason" (other channels work fine)
so server-admin might need to take some money in his hand (German expression) and get a capable Oscam server version on your own :)

I mean, as we all can see: it is possible to decode the "next layer of encryption" (don't know if it is named overcrypt key): DAZN 1+2 (which have also stoped working for some weeks) are best channels to show it: "usual SkyDE channels" (not using "overcrypt") are decoded within ~150ms each codeword. Switching to DAZN (1 or 2) and the times double to around 300-350ms (that's where it starts to get freeze at least above 450ms response time for every "7 seconds valid codeword"). Simple reason: this channel is bought from an external source. And of course it doubles the time to decode as the codeword is send from my receiver to cs-server > from cs-server to external cs-server > and the same way back :)

And I am thinking about new channel request for Sky One (or Sky 1 DE) as it should also be possible to get Sky One the same way as the DAZN channels (which many freezers, as already explained).

My subscription (and most of my friends) ends at the beginning of next year. Lets see how admin reacts or I switch to another cs-server. Because it is possible to decode, it only requires a "non public Oscam version" at the server - and as we can see with DAZN: ONLY the server requires this expensive Oscam version, the clients are fine with the cost free Oscam (or other emulator).
So if you are looking for another server: get one who offers DAZN channels and Sky One (and the channels listed in the posting above) and check the response times: if time for "overcrypt channels" is much higher look for another server.
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Re: sky germany is changing encryption
« Ответ #2 : 22 Октября 2019, 03:33:58 »
Channels from one transponder are not decoded. It's global problem. Sky is doing something. We have no information yet what happened, but we hope, information will be available soon
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Re: sky germany is changing encryption
« Ответ #3 : 23 Октября 2019, 00:13:46 »
many write that they opened again, maybe there is an opportunity to repair
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Re: sky germany is changing encryption
« Ответ #5 : 24 Октября 2019, 14:43:58 »
Everything should be dark in November. Can you offer iptv in the future for SkyDE?

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Re: sky germany is changing encryption
« Ответ #6 : 24 Октября 2019, 15:24:57 »
I found a provider where everything is running but laggy (ECM Times ~500-4000ms). only discovery hd is not running. maybe there will be a solution soon?

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Re: sky germany is changing encryption
« Ответ #7 : 24 Октября 2019, 21:12:16 »
have a provider where everything works. just think that they can not solve it here!
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Re: sky germany is changing encryption
« Ответ #8 : 24 Октября 2019, 21:51:48 »
the other provider uses V13 cards... Everything is running there. just how long?

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Re: sky germany is changing encryption
« Ответ #9 : 24 Октября 2019, 22:05:35 »
It's amazing how fast some people start panicking after one week without few channels.
This is a general issue and not only a CSS one.
Just be patient and I am sure the CSS team is going to find a solution...as usually.
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Re: sky germany is changing encryption
« Ответ #10 : 25 Октября 2019, 06:28:37 »
People, please don't forget that SkyDe card is not a pack of cigarettes sold at every corner...
At least, there is Moderator e-mail available on the forum and you may contact him any time with your proposals and offers (Re: IPTV, V13 cards, etc., etc.)
If you don't like something, it's your right to leave... Nobody will blame or hold you. You always have a choice.
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Re: sky germany is changing encryption
« Ответ #11 : 28 Октября 2019, 18:17:57 »
TP 12382 seems to be the next are switched
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Re: sky germany is changing encryption
« Ответ #12 : 29 Октября 2019, 18:32:46 »
Hey @suma any Updates? The admin hat found a Solution?
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Re: sky germany is changing encryption
« Ответ #13 : 29 Октября 2019, 19:05:46 »
andiii123 and romaN237: could you guys message me a provider that offers working channels mentioned above? Thanks a lot! :-)

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Re: sky germany is changing encryption
« Ответ #14 : 29 Октября 2019, 20:52:31 »
Hi Moderator, Hi All,

Please find below a link to the today published article about the new SKY encryption (unfortunately only in german):

https://www.techbook.de/entertainment/streaming/sky-unique-pairing-verschluesselung-receiver

To those who do not speak german I would like to summerize the current status:

According to techbook.de, SKY informs that by the end of November 2019 all channels will be secured by the unique pairing which means that only a SKY Q-Receiver in combination with a SKY card is able to decrypt SKY channels. Usage of 3rd parties receiver will be no more supported from now on.

Do you think it will be possible in future to outwit this encryption?
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Re: sky germany is changing encryption
« Ответ #15 : 29 Октября 2019, 23:46:48 »
But Sky Sport HD is working (again) at the moment?!
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Re: sky germany is changing encryption
« Ответ #16 : 30 Октября 2019, 03:28:05 »
But Sky Sport HD is working (again) at the moment?!

Yes, we are doing our job... It's a matter of time, as I told before
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Re: sky germany is changing encryption
« Ответ #17 : 30 Октября 2019, 13:31:21 »
But Sky Sport HD is working (again) at the moment?!

But only with higher decoding time (350-400ms) - like as by DAZN... Therefore it comes frequently to freezers...
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Re: sky germany is changing encryption
« Ответ #18 : 30 Октября 2019, 15:44:56 »
The channels are launched in the test mode, have patience
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Re: sky germany is changing encryption
« Ответ #19 : 30 Октября 2019, 17:24:42 »
Okay, thank's for info and your (and your teams) efforts.

Apparently there is still hope for a good solution...   8)
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