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Sky - not all channels decoded
« : 13 Января 2020, 19:13:17 »
Hello,

is there any problem with the sharing of the sky channels?
Some of the german sky channels are black. For exampe sky krimi HD, Sky Comedy HD...
I have the issue on both receivers with different users.

The oscam intreface shows the following message in the log:
"rejected  (14 ms) by "backup_cardsharing.cc_20204" (F/3/2/2) - Sky Krimi"

Other channels like Sky Cinema HD, the channels of ORF 19E or HD plus are decoded.

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Rainer

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Re: Sky - not all channels decoded
« Ответ #1 : 13 Января 2020, 20:58:58 »
Hello, I can confirm.
Exactly the same problem with me too?

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Re: Sky - not all channels decoded
« Ответ #2 : 13 Января 2020, 22:34:43 »
I can also conform - at least Sky Comedy
2020/01/13 20:10:35 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 0 CAID: 09C4 ECM_PID: 1B18 PROVID: 000000
2020/01/13 20:10:35 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 1 CAID: 098C ECM_PID: 1A18 PROVID: 000000
2020/01/13 20:10:35 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 2 CAID: 098D ECM_PID: 1C18 PROVID: 000000
2020/01/13 20:10:35 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 found 3 ECM pids and 3 STREAM pids in CA PMT
2020/01/13 20:10:35 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 0 CAID 09C4 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1B18 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/13 20:10:35 5E142F81 c      (ecm) ax (09C4@000000/007B/0008/A7:4E8A958736631970DBEF0051E5D75DBF): rejected group (5 ms) - Sky Cinema Comedy (no matching reader)
2020/01/13 20:10:35 5E142F81 c      (ecm) ax (09C4@000000/007B/0008/A7:9E830D4FE8C67D5067E41910BF66BD8F): rejected group (1 ms) - Sky Cinema Comedy (no matching reader)
2020/01/13 20:10:35 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A18 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/13 20:10:36 5E142F81 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/007B/0008/9F:387FB9CBE707AB44C13F7D86087333FF): not found (66 ms) by Sky-DE.14 - Sky Cinema Comedy
2020/01/13 20:10:36 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 0 ms with 2 enabled and 1 disabled ecmpids!
2020/01/13 20:10:36 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 0 CAID 09C4 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1B18 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/13 20:10:37 5E142F81 c      (ecm) ax (09C4@000000/007B/0008/A7:9E830D4FE8C67D5067E41910BF66BD8F): not found (41 ms) by Sky-DE.13 - Sky Cinema Comedy
2020/01/13 20:10:37 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A18 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/13 20:10:38 5E142F81 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/007B/0008/9F:387FB9CBE707AB44C13F7D86087333FF): not found (1 ms) by Sky-DE.14 - Sky Cinema Comedy
2020/01/13 20:10:38 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 1 ms with 2 enabled and 1 disabled ecmpids!
2020/01/13 20:10:38 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 0 CAID 09C4 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1B18 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/13 20:10:39 5E142F81 c      (ecm) ax (09C4@000000/007B/0008/A7:9E830D4FE8C67D5067E41910BF66BD8F): not found (1 ms) by Sky-DE.13 - Sky Cinema Comedy
2020/01/13 20:10:39 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A18 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/13 20:10:40 5E142F81 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/007B/0008/9F:387FB9CBE707AB44C13F7D86087333FF): not found (1 ms) by Sky-DE.14 - Sky Cinema Comedy
2020/01/13 20:10:40 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 0 ms with 2 enabled and 1 disabled ecmpids!
2020/01/13 20:10:40 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 0 CAID 09C4 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1B18 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/13 20:10:41 5E142F81 c      (ecm) ax (09C4@000000/007B/0008/A7:9E830D4FE8C67D5067E41910BF66BD8F): not found (1 ms) by Sky-DE.13 - Sky Cinema Comedy
2020/01/13 20:10:41 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A18 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/13 20:10:42 5E142F81 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/007B/0008/9F:387FB9CBE707AB44C13F7D86087333FF): not found (1 ms) by Sky-DE.14 - Sky Cinema Comedy
2020/01/13 20:10:42 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 0 ms with 2 enabled and 1 disabled ecmpids!
2020/01/13 20:10:42 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 0 CAID 09C4 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1B18 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/13 20:10:43 5E142F81 c      (ecm) ax (09C4@000000/007B/0008/A7:9E830D4FE8C67D5067E41910BF66BD8F): not found (0 ms) by Sky-DE.13 - Sky Cinema Comedy
2020/01/13 20:10:43 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A18 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/13 20:10:44 5E142F81 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/007B/0008/9F:163BE173D3AB209AF83DBD998DCDBA6D): not found (36 ms) by Sky-DE.14 - Sky Cinema Comedy
2020/01/13 20:10:44 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 0 ms with 2 enabled and 1 disabled ecmpids!
2020/01/13 20:10:44 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 0 CAID 09C4 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1B18 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/13 20:10:45 5E142F81 c      (ecm) ax (09C4@000000/007B/0008/A7:730406C9AE0716A42C90A776BBD521A8): not found (41 ms) by Sky-DE.13 - Sky Cinema Comedy
2020/01/13 20:10:45 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1A18 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/13 20:10:46 5E142F81 c      (ecm) ax (098C@000000/007B/0008/9F:163BE173D3AB209AF83DBD998DCDBA6D): not found (0 ms) by Sky-DE.14 - Sky Cinema Comedy
2020/01/13 20:10:46 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 0 ms with 2 enabled and 1 disabled ecmpids!
2020/01/13 20:10:46 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 0 CAID 09C4 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1B18 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/13 20:10:47 5E142F81 c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 stopped descrambling for program 0008 (Sky Cinema Comedy)

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Re: Sky - not all channels decoded
« Ответ #3 : 14 Января 2020, 06:45:32 »
Did you ever read News and Announcements? https://www.cardsharing.cc/index.php?topic=35582.0
I think, you never read them and don't know what is the situation with Sky De package.
Because of the new encryption incorporated by the provider, some channels cannot be shared and we are not gods to improve the situation just in seconds.
You may show your logs as many times as you can, but this will not change the situation. We are preparing for the worst.
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Re: Sky - not all channels decoded
« Ответ #4 : 14 Января 2020, 21:52:40 »
as you see in the logfile: of course I read the news and switched to caid 09c4 - what was never active advised here in the forum and on the news-page of billing center (it was simply available on my subscriptions within the configuration).
And what is your posting about ?
SkyDE changed encryption and obviously (regarding runtime of a codeword doubled in time) you get thte codewords from external source - fine with me as long as it is not freezing (max. time about 600ms). At the beginning/after the changes of SkyDE it was not working fine with many freezers, than you solved the problem and it was fine, now there is a problem again. What do you expect from us ? ohhh there is a problem with SkyDE be happy with a complete picture every 30 minutes ? Of course customers complain, or lets say, inform you about problems.
BTW: Sky comedy (see log) was not working at all around 20:00 cet, 2 hours later it seems to work (with many freezers as all channels of SkyDE).

So of course customers are complaining, what do you expect ?
you might answer, that there is a new (3 month old) situation with SkyDE and you are working on it, but criticizing customers to mention that there is a (absolutely new) problem with some channels (not decoded at all) is for sure the wrong way of support - think about it ! The fact, that it was working around 22:00 again shows, that there was a problem at your server = no additional change of encryption and obviously you solved it - fine. But do not complain about customers mentioning the problems your server has, that is for sure the wrong way of support, especially in this case.
I have not started my TV today but will do so next. So nice evening :)

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Re: Sky - not all channels decoded
« Ответ #5 : 15 Января 2020, 07:09:09 »
https://www.cardsharing.cc/index.php?topic=35582.msg130094#msg130094

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Re: Sky - not all channels decoded
« Ответ #6 : 15 Января 2020, 20:00:38 »
Thanks for this news.
As already mentioned in a another thread about emulator configuration and short freezes for a codeword-validity (around 7 seconds) happening 3-4 times an hour, the program is working fine, even Sky Comedy is available again.

Regarding your news and the message, you cannot do anything against it:
don't you think it might help to reduce the package of some channels ? that the the small number of v13-cards have to decode less number of channels. That would help for sure and it does not matter if 1 person is watching one channel or 2000 users are watching the same channel, as all users get the same - one time calculated by the card - codeword from the cache.

What is the advantage in sharing all the SD channels ? Sky Germany transmit all channels in DVB-S2 standard = every channel requires an HD capable receiver/tuner, also for SD channels. I am not sure how many users are watching the SD channels but every one receiving the SD channel is technically capable to use the HD channel as well. So you can for sure cancel sharing (block service ids) of all SD channels which are also available via HD = all Sky SD Sports channels, all Sky SD Bundesliga (football) channels and also Sky Cinema (and +1 and +24) SD channels, Sky Family SD, Sky Hits SD and Sky Action SD. From my point of view you could also cancel the childrens channels (Boomerang, Junior, Disney Junior) and we all lived the last year(s) without Sky One *g*
What I mean: you can better offer a smaller number of channels working well or acceptable well, than a bunch of channels where no user will be satisfied.
Except the idea to remove children's channel (are there many users ?) my suggestion is not limiting any user in available programs. As mentioned Sky uses DVB-S2 transmission on all transponders = require an HD receiver anyway.

BTW: yes I have prolonged my VIP-Astra subscription some days ago for a whole year. I saved 20% (or lets say is with other words: if it keeps working 10 month it is still an advantage). Also VIP-Astra is not only Sky (but basically that is the reason to select that package). And if Sky really stops working I might freeze the package and get only ORF-Asutria and MTV (but MTV will discontinue transmission in some month for sure) or request a package change by moderator.

But at the moment and for the last month all channels, the once using old DES encryption and also the once using new 3DES/overcrypt have been decoded fine or lets say acceptable (as mentioned some freezers but only a small number). And I hope you might get it more stable by canceling SD channels (from the channels which are also available in HD). If you need it I can create an actual list of service-ids of that channels (on the connection history page the channel names not always correct assigned).
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Re: Sky - not all channels decoded
« Ответ #7 : 16 Января 2020, 08:23:46 »
Jogi, thank you for comment, Moderator will decide what to do
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Re: Sky - not all channels decoded
« Ответ #8 : 23 Января 2020, 23:17:41 »
Hello,

for me the 09C4 is unfortunatelly not working (port 20158 is active in my settings). Is there something I miss?

2020/01/23 21:07:55 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 stop descrambling program number 30D6 (1830@000000:30D6 unknown)
2020/01/23 21:07:56 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 0 CAID: 098C ECM_PID: 1AD1 PROVID: 000000
2020/01/23 21:07:56 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 1 CAID: 09C4 ECM_PID: 1BD1 PROVID: 000000
2020/01/23 21:07:56 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 2 CAID: 098D ECM_PID: 1CD1 PROVID: 000000
2020/01/23 21:07:56 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 found 3 ECMpids and 4 STREAMpids in caPMT
2020/01/23 21:07:56 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 no suitable readers found that can be used for decoding!
2020/01/23 21:07:56 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 09C4 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1BD1 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/23 21:07:56 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 found 3 ECMpids and 4 STREAMpids in PMT
2020/01/23 21:07:56 734676AC c      (ecm) root (09C4@000000/0BB9/0072/A7:00000000000000000000000000000000): rejected user ident (1 ms) (no card support 09C4@000000)
2020/01/23 21:07:56 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decodingrequests after 3 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2020/01/23 21:07:56 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 no suitable readers found that can be used for decoding!
2020/01/23 21:07:57 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 09C4 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1BD1 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/23 21:07:57 734676AC c      (ecm) root (09C4@000000/0BB9/0072/A7:00000000000000000000000000000000): rejected user ident (1 ms) (no card support 09C4@000000)
2020/01/23 21:07:57 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decodingrequests after 3 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2020/01/23 21:07:57 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 no suitable readers found that can be used for decoding!
2020/01/23 21:07:58 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 09C4 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1BD1 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/23 21:07:58 734676AC c      (ecm) root (09C4@000000/0BB9/0072/A7:00000000000000000000000000000000): rejected user ident (1 ms) (no card support 09C4@000000)
2020/01/23 21:07:58 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decodingrequests after 3 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2020/01/23 21:07:58 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 no suitable readers found that can be used for decoding!
2020/01/23 21:07:59 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 09C4 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1BD1 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/23 21:07:59 734676AC c      (ecm) root (09C4@000000/0BB9/0072/A7:00000000000000000000000000000000): rejected user ident (1 ms) (no card support 09C4@000000)
2020/01/23 21:07:59 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decodingrequests after 3 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2020/01/23 21:07:59 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 no suitable readers found that can be used for decoding!
2020/01/23 21:08:00 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 09C4 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1BD1 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/23 21:08:00 734676AC c      (ecm) root (09C4@000000/0BB9/0072/A7:00000000000000000000000000000000): rejected user ident (1 ms) (no card support 09C4@000000)
2020/01/23 21:08:00 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decodingrequests after 3 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2020/01/23 21:08:00 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 no suitable readers found that can be used for decoding!
2020/01/23 21:08:01 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 09C4 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1BD1 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/23 21:08:01 734676AC c      (ecm) root (09C4@000000/0BB9/0072/A7:00000000000000000000000000000000): rejected user ident (1 ms) (no card support 09C4@000000)
2020/01/23 21:08:01 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decodingrequests after 4 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2020/01/23 21:08:01 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 no suitable readers found that can be used for decoding!
2020/01/23 21:08:02 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 09C4 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1BD1 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/23 21:08:02 734676AC c      (ecm) root (09C4@000000/0BB9/0072/A7:00000000000000000000000000000000): rejected user ident (0 ms) (no card support 09C4@000000)
2020/01/23 21:08:02 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decodingrequests after 3 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2020/01/23 21:08:02 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 no suitable readers found that can be used for decoding!
2020/01/23 21:08:03 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 09C4 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1BD1 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/23 21:08:03 734676AC c      (ecm) root (09C4@000000/0BB9/0072/A7:00000000000000000000000000000000): rejected user ident (0 ms) (no card support 09C4@000000)
2020/01/23 21:08:03 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decodingrequests after 3 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
2020/01/23 21:08:03 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 no suitable readers found that can be used for decoding!
2020/01/23 21:08:04 734676AC c   (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 1 CAID 09C4 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1BD1 ANY CHID PMTPID 0063 VPID 03FF
2020/01/23 21:08:04 734676AC c      (ecm) root (09C4@000000/0BB9/0072/A7:00000000000000000000000000000000): rejected user ident (1 ms) (no card support 09C4@000000)
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Re: Sky - not all channels decoded
« Ответ #9 : 24 Января 2020, 00:03:32 »
fixed -> problems with the oscam.user settings... sorry
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Re: Sky - not all channels decoded
« Ответ #10 : 18 Мая 2020, 07:59:37 »
Hello suma,

Any infos on Jogi's idea? (cancelling servicing SD channels if there is a HD version of it)

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Sky - not all channels decoded
« Ответ #11 : 18 Мая 2020, 15:00:37 »
Hello suma,

Any infos on Jogi's idea? (cancelling servicing SD channels if there is a HD version of it)

Thanks in advance!

Hi, if you want to receive an official answer, you may contact Moderator directly. To tell you the truth, I am not taking any decision here, I am just forum admin. 
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